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Spoilers Starship Design in Star Trek: Picard

As you can see there's some clear issues... namely the use of Nova-class architecture in 2352... when we're in the middle of Project Galaxy and stuff like the Freedom/Niagara (Galaxy Nacelle space trials were in 2353) hasn't even launched yet. Nova-class is a 2370 launch at the earliest, as it has nearly the same Nacelle configuration as the Sovereign, its features are contemporary with Intrepid-class (launched 2369) and Equinox's plaque is 2370. Also, Nova came out of Project Pathfinder, meaning it probably wouldn't have launched before Defiant's launch (6-month trial in early 2369 before its retirement and Sisko's transfer).
I don’t mind it. Give it those Springfield highlighter pen nacelles and it would be era-appropriate.

But, er *nine* phaser banks is overkill on a tiny ship!
 
Well yeah, that's been known for some time. The guy really doesn't design anything anymore; he just takes old stuff he made years ago, tweaks it a little, and presents it as new. But again, this isn't anything we didn't already know.

"Some negative space here, some negative space there..."
 
I don’t mind it. Give it those Springfield highlighter pen nacelles and it would be era-appropriate.

But, er *nine* phaser banks is overkill on a tiny ship!
I mean they're the older Type-IX ones from the Ambassador, but yeah. The Type-11 shuttle has a Type-IX or Type-X (or Type-XII, who knows it's never really been made clear) strip as well, but it's just one on the front IIRC.

As for the concept Eleos, agreed the Springfield Nacelles and Deflector would be very appropriate for it. Or Aerie/Raven-class, as we know that was around in 2347.
 
Well yeah, that's been known for some time. The guy really doesn't design anything anymore; he just takes old stuff he made years ago, tweaks it a little, and presents it as new. But again, this isn't anything we didn't already know.
Doesn't John Eaves just make Star Trek ships in his own style?

Most of us can tell a Eaves Ship just by looking at it.
 
You could say that. But when you color in the image of that NX concept it doesn't look so much like that.
Aside from windows and the nacelles being pulled back in the final version, looks very similar to me:
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Aside from windows and the nacelles being pulled back in the final version, looks very similar to me:
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Marc Bell's version is marginally better than what we got, especially the color. Just get rid of the pointless gap between the nacelle pylons, make the nacelles a uniform length instead of tapering them smaller towards the back, make the impulse engines smaller, and it would have been a more believable TOS-style ship.
 
Marc Bell's version is marginally better than what we got, especially the color. Just get rid of the pointless gap between the nacelle pylons, make the nacelles a uniform length instead of tapering them smaller towards the back, make the impulse engines smaller, and it would have been a more believable TOS-style ship.
Eaves originally added the potato-peelers as a way to thicken the pylons while visually implying they were a separate component that would be removed later on by the time of TOS. Like the era-appropriate second-pilot nacelle endcaps, this has been ignored in subsequent productions that have used the model as-is in appearances set during TOS and beyond.
 
No, no, no. Just
Aside from windows and the nacelles being pulled back in the final version, looks very similar to me:
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No, no, no. They are different. I'm going to overlay one onto the other to prove I'm right.


Well damn....
 
That, and they're wrong because instead of Eaves using the TOS Enterprise as his starting point, he used a design originally meant to be a completely different ship, and worked from there. If I'm tasked with creating an updated version of the TOS Enterprise, I would think that I'd start that process by taking said TOS Enterprise and extrapolating from that starting point. Not by taking a possible NX-01 sketch and working backward from that.
 
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