Spoilers Starship Design in Star Trek: Picard

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by pst, Jan 9, 2020.

  1. Tuskin38

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    Bill has another ship of the Shangri-La class at NCC-2592, maybe it was just a mistake from incrementing up one number for the Titan?

    Normally I don't name my ships after existing ones in Trek Lore, but I thought that was too good to pass up. I got a kick out the Stargazer's registry.
     
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    I dropped STO some 10 years ago cause missions were suddenly not available anymore before you could even finish them, and what was available consisted of 2 h of repetitive slow space fights... followed by 2 h of repetitive ground fights... rinse and repeat :D
     
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    I think the NuTitan needed a "THICC-er" neck, like the Excelsior class.

    It's current neck is too scrawny as a logical progression.

    Everything else seems largely fine.

    I would love for them to mix in Ball Turrets & Phaser Arrays.

    There's no reason why you can't have both types of weapons installed.
     
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    So one could argue PIC isn‘t part of the TNG/LD continuity. SCNR ;-)
     
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    No
     
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    That’s an oversimplification. There are other criteria that define a successful project than number of flights. Could be overall cost per flight hour, cost of upkeep, reliability. One could even argue that losing two shuttles constituted failure. We’ll never know what criteria they used internally, even though they will always tell us it was successful.
     
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    He was just making a joke.
     
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    Don't feel bad. After I saw First Contact at the theater, I was so convinced that the E-E had a round saucer that I was pissed when AMT "got it so effin' wrong" on the model.
     
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    Part of the Galaxy class design which works to make the ship look bigger on screen is the eye sees the elliptical saucer and perceives it as circular and in perspective
     
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    It's quite simple: The STS was supposed to carry stuff to earth orbit. It never meant to go to the moon.
    Apollo and Artemis are supposed to go to the moon. They were not meant to carry stuff to earth orbit.
    All of them "worked out" for the purpose they were designed for.
     
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    The other thing to consider about the Galaxy-class is how much volume all those convex curves take up compared to the skeletally thin Constitution-class. The Enterprise-D might be just over twice the length of the original 1701, but if you use a 3D model to figure out her real volume she's ~27.5 times the volume of Kirk's ship (~5,821,000m³ vs ~211,000m³). In fact each one of the Galaxy-class's nacelles has a larger volume than an entire TOS-configuration Constitution-class.
     
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    I think that’s something a lot of people don’t understand. Even the Enterprise-E, which is a a few meters longer than the Enterprise-D, really only has about half the volume of the latter ship. Ergo, the E is actually a much smaller ship than its predecessor.
     
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    Glad they decided to put more work into the design rather than having it just be a blatant kitbash of Sovereign parts.
     
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    (The opening might trigger certain people. Keep in mind it's not me saying this, and reach out to them if you wanna tell them to stop saying things) ;) :p
     
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    You could have just have easily said nothing.
    Why do you keep provoking them?
     
  19. Paul755

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    having it be a kitbash of Sovereign parts would have kept the tradition of the Constellation being a kitbash of Connie Refit parts though.
     
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    That wasn't so much 'tradition' as it was 'necessity.' At the time Rick Sternbach built that yellow desktop model in Picard's ready room, the only available Federation starship model kits were the TOS Enterprise and the TMP Enterprise. The former being too old for a believable pre-TMP era ship, he used parts from the latter kit. And keep in mind that that yellow model wasn't originally meant to be the Stargazer, as the producers were planning on reusing the TMP Enterprise-A for it. The yellow model was just meant to be background set dressing until someone got the idea to base a new filming model on that desktop version.
     
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