How do you imagine that they regard them?
Spoilers Starship Design in Star Trek: Picard
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How do you imagine that they regard them?
I answered that question in the very line you quoted. As not just 'vehicles for storytelling.'
The Luna Class? Yes.
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Well compare all the fed ships we see in First Contact, they're pretty different from each other.
Just watched one of many video's that popped up the last couple of days on YouTube about the Enterprise F. A lot of it uses shots from STO ofcourse.
Now, I played STO a couple of years ago, and I half forgot that Quantum Slipstream Drive is a part of the game. In Picard, the QSD is never mentioned and honestly, I'm fine with that. I always kinda figured Voyager brought it home, and Starfleet has been tinkering with it ever since, trying to make it work. In the novels, they actually figured it out and about 4 years after Voyager got home, they literally have 9 ships already working with a functioning QSD going back the DQ. I always thought that was way to quick, but whatever.
Anyway.... This particular YouTuber brought up the fact that in Prodigy, which I haven't seen yet, Janeway commands a vessel with a QSD, based on the Dauntless design. And he speculated that with QSD being part of a functioning ship build by Starfleet in 2383 I believe, that it might be possible that the Enterprise F in Picard might be outfitted with one as well.
I personally doubt this will happen, but it would open up a whole new galaxy to play with for any spin-offs of Picard, should they want to do more shows set after it. 25th century show that has the capaity to easily travel to the DQ, GQ. And don't forget, a lot of the AQ and BQ is still unexplored. Space is big.
Now, I played STO a couple of years ago, and I half forgot that Quantum Slipstream Drive is a part of the game. In Picard, the QSD is never mentioned and honestly, I'm fine with that. I always kinda figured Voyager brought it home, and Starfleet has been tinkering with it ever since, trying to make it work. In the novels, they actually figured it out and about 4 years after Voyager got home, they literally have 9 ships already working with a functioning QSD going back the DQ. I always thought that was way to quick, but whatever.
Anyway.... This particular YouTuber brought up the fact that in Prodigy, which I haven't seen yet, Janeway commands a vessel with a QSD, based on the Dauntless design. And he speculated that with QSD being part of a functioning ship build by Starfleet in 2383 I believe, that it might be possible that the Enterprise F in Picard might be outfitted with one as well.
I personally doubt this will happen, but it would open up a whole new galaxy to play with for any spin-offs of Picard, should they want to do more shows set after it. 25th century show that has the capaity to easily travel to the DQ, GQ. And don't forget, a lot of the AQ and BQ is still unexplored. Space is big.
Unfortunately, DSC has already pointed out past history; that no one found a better alternative to standard wrap drive for 900 years, despite other shows like PRO showing successful alternative drives like quantum slipstream and the protostar drive (not to mention the spore drive itself.) So unless DSC takes place in an alternate universe, then we already know that QSD and the protostar drive are ultimate failures, which puts a damper on things spin-off-wise.
Quantum Slipstream was shown in DSC, it's not used often because of how rare Benemite crystals are
Well, no, it's not that no one found a better alternative to standard warp drive for 900 years. It's that even super-FTL drives like quantum slipstream use dilithium crystals, and therefore were caught in the Burn. In fact, DIS has routinely featured Delta and Gamma Quadrant species operating in the 32nd Century Alpha Quadrant, strongly implying that super-FTL drives have remained in use post-Burn in the same limited manner that regular warp has remained in use (i.e., both at drastically reduced scales but certainly not unheard of). There is no continuity issue.
The spore drive and the protostar drive don’t use dilithium. What happened with those?
(Well, we know what happened with the spore drive; it was classified for ‘canon’ reasons, which makes no sense in the large scheme of things. Even if Starfleet classified it, they could still have made an exemption to use it to get Voyager home. But that’s a different topic.)
(Well, we know what happened with the spore drive; it was classified for ‘canon’ reasons, which makes no sense in the large scheme of things. Even if Starfleet classified it, they could still have made an exemption to use it to get Voyager home. But that’s a different topic.)
According to Memory Alpha, the Star Trek: Prodigy episode "A Moral Star, Part I" established that the protostar drive requires an exotic matter dilithium matrix to function. So protostar drives would also have been affected by the Burn.
Also since the spore drive was classified I doubt they would have found a way over the century to adapt it to voyager that wouldn’t require a dry dock to refit the ship with a spinning saucer, and a way to control it without enslaving a Tardigrade or violating federation law on genetic modification
Yeah, I think that's probably the built-in reason why the spore drive couldn't be used to bring Voyager home -- the Intrepid-class hull wouldn't survive the displacement process. No spinny things.
Now, there is a question about why Starfleet didn't do pull a "Dauntless" and just build a new Crossfield-class ship that could spore to Voyager's location, transfer the crew, and then abandon Voyager and return aboard the Crossfield. My in-universe rationalization would be that it's related to the damage to subspace that the Hekarans discovered in 2370 and the detrimental effects spore drive usage was already discovered to cause in the 2250s -- something about it made Starfleet fear that using a spore drive to bring the Voyager crew home posed an unacceptably large risk to the fabric of subspace and/or space-time.
From a Doylist perspective, of course, it's because the producers wanted to do something new with their new ship on DIS but also wanted to set the show before TOS. AKA, they wanted to have their cake and eat it too. Really it would have been better to set S1 of DIS about 20-25 years after the Federation/Klingon War of DS9 S4-5; they could have told the same basic story as DIS S1 but it wouldn't have seemingly contradicted the entire premise of VOY. Oh well!
Now, there is a question about why Starfleet didn't do pull a "Dauntless" and just build a new Crossfield-class ship that could spore to Voyager's location, transfer the crew, and then abandon Voyager and return aboard the Crossfield. My in-universe rationalization would be that it's related to the damage to subspace that the Hekarans discovered in 2370 and the detrimental effects spore drive usage was already discovered to cause in the 2250s -- something about it made Starfleet fear that using a spore drive to bring the Voyager crew home posed an unacceptably large risk to the fabric of subspace and/or space-time.
From a Doylist perspective, of course, it's because the producers wanted to do something new with their new ship on DIS but also wanted to set the show before TOS. AKA, they wanted to have their cake and eat it too. Really it would have been better to set S1 of DIS about 20-25 years after the Federation/Klingon War of DS9 S4-5; they could have told the same basic story as DIS S1 but it wouldn't have seemingly contradicted the entire premise of VOY. Oh well!
