Spoilers Starship Design in Star Trek: Picard

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  1. Tuskin38

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    Interesting, they’re calling that Romulan ship the bomber. STO called the thinner one not pictured a bomber.
     
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    That’s a cool tug design. Much more interesting to look at than the Zimmerman at first glance, and the first period-correct ship in the new fleet.
     
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    ^^^ I also love the look of that tug! :)

    I’m tempted to pick it up when available.
     
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    The mighty Wallenberg-class tug..!

    "Picard" has moved forward in many ways, but giving their Fed ships cool names was not really one of them. In both PIC and DSC they seem intent on largely naming ships after 20th-century people. Worthy people to be sure, but still...

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  5. Timo

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    ...What did they call this fatter one, then? (Onscreen, everybody just talks about "warbirds", when these tiny things are more like scufflechicklets in comparison with D'Deridex.)

    We see the interior of the fat one, when it's being used as a shuttlebus to bring personnel to the Artifact. Would a bomber make for a good shuttlebus?

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  6. Tuskin38

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    It's not in the game yet.
     
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    The Wallenberg is my favorite ship to come out of Picard. Overall I was underwhelmed by the design direction the show took, but the tug was something unique and fresh.
     
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    Agreed. When Eaves designs new ships for a specific function (i.e. a tug), they turn out good. When he just recycles his old designs, they’re not as great.
     
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    Not sure about that. Shenzhou is variously translated as 'divine ship' or 'divine land' and Discovery itself isn't named after anyone, it was a NASA shuttle. Zheng He was born in the 1300s. Nog was born in the 24th century. I think it's the same as it ever was, though I feel it is a newer thing for ships to be named after people rather than being named after actual ships (Enterprise, Reliant, Defiant, Yorktown etc.).
     
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    Inquiry concept art. Sorry for the quality I’m on my phone. Maybe someone on an actual computer can get better quality screen caps.

    all three designs are here, and they sorta match what Chabon described. Different class names through. Concept Two seems to be what we got in the final episode.

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    It would be really interesting to learn what the design was originally needed for. It's pretty specific: "Gimme a ship with a big shuttlebay in front!"

    I'm sort of envisioning a cliched scene where this ship swallows the Sirena whole, gulping her into the "maw", presumably against her will. Cliched, and recently extra familiar from The Force Awakens... Perhaps dropped in part for that reason?

    Out of the three alternatives, I guess the one we got had the most prominent and useful "maw". Even had all three been turned into CGI, we might have complained about the lack of diversity, since they were essentially all the same ship originally, just with a bit of experimentation on the primary hull. So I'm actually hoping the Inquiry is the only thing that will ever come out of this, and future PIC appearances of Starfleet ships will involve designs made for the purpose.

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  15. Tuskin38

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    Well the other ones also have different nacelles and pylons
     
  16. Timo

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    I don't see any difference in the nacelles? The pylons just sorta stretch out a bit more on the others, giving essentially the same silhouette, which is bad from the diversity standpoint.

    Then again, it's a nom de guerre to begin with. Then again again, dropping "Toussaint" and only keeping "Louverture" might be the decent thing to do, not because this would be his surname, but because it would be the name he chose for himself (not to mention a unique name, thanks to the spelling).

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  17. Tuskin38

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    The Three designs in this book mostly match what Chabon described to Jorg on Memory-Alpha

    1. A heavy cruiser: the Inquiry-class. That’s the Zheng He. (this one fits Concept three IMO, but the actual Inquiry class that we got matches Concept Two a lot more)
    2. A carrier cruiser, similar to the Inquiry but with two distinctive forward “prongs” or “horns” off the elongated “saucer”: the Equity-class. (Concept Two)
    3. An explorer, with a distinctive “open” or ring-style saucer: the Seeker-class. (Concept One)

    Interesting, they asked Eaves for a Registry number, but they never used it.
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    Eaglemoss didn't use that number either.

    Eaves gave them NCC-75641, but Eaglemoss used NCC-88505
     
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    Okay...
     
  19. Timo

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    Did Chabon pull the designations out of his ass for the purposes of the interview, when Eaves was asked for, and delivered, three "heavy cruiser, carrier" vessels exclusively?

    Or are the designations something Eaves had originally associated with his designs before he was asked to adopt them for PIC as a range of "carrier cruisers" to choose from? Eaves has liked to associate ring hulls with exploration and research in his STO or desk drawer work...

    Or was Eaves asked to add all-new and diverse designations to his three offerings so that a fleet could be built at the last minute? But the story suggests Eaves was never asked to actually produce a fleet, only to pick the best of the former "carrier cruisers" and offer that as a template for the last-minute fleet.

    Hmm. Sounds more like they dictated a registry number on Eaves ("put [..] this registry number on there") and then either changed their minds, or not - NCC-88505 might be exactly what they gave him.

    Eaves had put registries on the original three offerings on his own volition; there's no history of the production team accepting Eaves' registries and names as a thing, though, and he realizes those are mere placeholders.

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    The one Eaves gave was very Voyager/DS9. I can get why they'd want a higher number for their newest ship.

    Either that or there's the usual birthday or part of a phone number coded in there.
     
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