Stargate SG-1 and Atlantis... What's next?

[DigificWriter]

I'm thinking about rewatching Atlantis from the beginning but taking a different approach that by and large treats it as a standalone entity, with as minimal SG-1 cross-pollinization as I can get away with and still be able to understand the story. Can anybody give me suggestions as to which SG-1 stories explicitly link to Atlantis either through characters or story (besides Lost City, New Order, and The Pegasus Project)?

 

[DonIago]

Besides the ones you named I'm not sure any of them do.

Atlantis tied to SG-1 a lot more closely than vice-versa.

 

[Kegg]

I'm thinking about rewatching Atlantis from the beginning but taking a different approach that by and large treats it as a standalone entity, with as minimal SG-1 cross-pollinization as I can get away with and still be able to understand the story. Can anybody give me suggestions as to which SG-1 stories explicitly link to Atlantis either through characters or story (besides Lost City, New Order, and The Pegasus Project)?

Mostly the half-dozen episodes David Hewlett appeared on SG1 as McKay (he'd appeared on the show twice before being on Atlantis, and then a couple more times afterwords.)

And even then, the Pegasus Project's plot is really all about SG1's own arc regarding the Ori as opposed to anything relating to Atlantis' story.

 

[DigificWriter]

After I asked my question, I decided to see if I couldn't answer it myself, and came up with the following:
48 Hours
Heroes P1 & P2
Lost City P1 & P2
New Order P1 & P2
Prometheus Unbound
Moebius P1 & P2
Avalon P1& P2
Camelot
Flesh and Blood
Morpheus
The Pegasus Project
Unending
The Ark of Truth
Continuum

Thoughts?

 

[The Wormhole]

After I asked my question, I decided to see if I couldn't answer it myself, and came up with the following:
48 Hours
Heroes P1 & P2
Lost City P1 & P2
New Order P1 & P2
Prometheus Unbound
Letters from Pegasus
Moebius P1 & P2
Avalon P1& P2
Camelot
Flesh and Blood
Morpheus
The Pegasus Project
Unending
The Ark of Truth
Continuum

Thoughts?

Aside from introducing McKay, 48 hours has nothing to do with Atlantis.

Likewise, the Heroes story has nothing to do with Atlantis aside from introducing Woolsey, but that hardly counts since he was a recurring character on SG-1 before they brought him over to Atlantis.

Lost City does set up Atlantis, and introduce Dr. Weir, so yeah, I'd agree with that. New Order kind of does lead into Rising, so I guess I'd keep that.

Prometheus Unbound might start with a mission to the Pegasus galaxy being launched, but since they get side tracked without making it there, that doesn't count.

Letters from Pegasus is an Atlantis episode, so I don't know why it's even on this list.

Mobius features a puddle jumper and is about finding the ZPM which power the city in season 2, so yeah, it counts but in a minor way.

There's nothing in Avalon, Camelot, Flesh and Blood, Morpheus, or Unending that's Atlantis related, aside from throw away references.

Ark of Truth just features a cameo by Colonel Ellis for its Atlantis connection. And Continuum was mentioned in an Atlantis episode, but is otherwise unconnected.

 

[DigificWriter]

Here's why I thought those particular episodes had some relevance to the Atlantis storyline:
* 48 Hours, as you mentioned, introduces us to McKay
* Prometheus Unbound introduces us to the character of Lindsay Novak
* Heroes, as you mentioned, introduces us to Woolsley
* New Order is a 'bridge' between Lost City and Rising, and marks Tori Higginson's first appearance as Weir
* Avalon introduces us to Col. Landry, explaining who he is when he shows up in The Intruder
* Camelot, Flesh and Blood, and Morpheus are contextual setup for The Pegasus Project
* Unending and Ark of Truth are 'backstory' setup for Carter's arrival on Atlantis
* Continuum shows us what happens to Carter after she leaves Atlantis

I was also thinking about maybe adding Inauguration to my list as a contextual prelude of sorts to Lost City and New Order.

 

[RoJoHen]

Here's why I thought those particular episodes had some relevance to the Atlantis storyline:
* 48 Hours, as you mentioned, introduces us to McKay
* Prometheus Unbound introduces us to the character of Lindsay Novak
* Heroes, as you mentioned, introduces us to Woolsley
* New Order is a 'bridge' between Lost City and Rising, and marks Tori Higginson's first appearance as Weir
* Avalon introduces us to Col. Landry, explaining who he is when he shows up in The Intruder
* Camelot, Flesh and Blood, and Morpheus are contextual setup for The Pegasus Project
* Unending and Ark of Truth are 'backstory' setup for Carter's arrival on Atlantis
* Continuum shows us what happens to Carter after she leaves Atlantis

I was also thinking about maybe adding Inauguration to my list as a contextual prelude of sorts to Lost City and New Order.

But if your goal is to treat Atlantis as its own entity, most of these "backstory" episodes on your list are not terribly necessary.

 

[The Wormhole]

* Prometheus Unbound introduces us to the character of Lindsay Novak

Who only had something like two minor appearances on Atlantis, hardly anyone of real significance. Why didn't you include the episode Enemy Mine? It introduces Major Lorne, someone who is of importance to Atlantis.

* Avalon introduces us to Col. Landry, explaining who he is when he shows up in The Intruder

Maybe things aren't spelled out exactly in The Intruder, but General Landry's other Atlantis appearances make it clear he's the SGC's current CO. Besides, even in The Intruder his role isn't significant enough to warrant watching a two-part SG-1 episode as preparation.

* Camelot, Flesh and Blood, and Morpheus are contextual setup for The Pegasus Project

But they're relevant to SG-1's story arcs, and have no impact on Atlantis and its story arcs at all. Hell, even The Pegasus Project has more relevance to SG-1 than it does for Atlantis.

* Unending and Ark of Truth are 'backstory' setup for Carter's arrival on Atlantis

No they don't. All the backstory and set up for Carter's arrival at Atlantis is covered in the first few season 4 episodes which do not draw on Ark of Truth at all. Hell, Ark of Truth was released after season 4 of Atlantis ended, so no one watching season 4 when it first aired had seen Ark of Truth at all.

* Continuum shows us what happens to Carter after she leaves Atlantis

But most of it is set in an alternate timeline which gets reset at the end. The only thing we see Carter do in the "prime" timeline in that movie is discuss a moon base with O'Neill. Hardly vital to getting the complete Atlantis experience.

 

[DWF]

What about a Star Trek approach?


Now that the big bads have been crushed, the SG-1 team has disassembled: T'ealc has gone to help his people rebuild and help lead them, after centuries of Gould enslavement.
Samantha may still be at the compound, but in some kind of scientific aspect that doesn't involve off-world travel.
Daniel has left (maybe alltogether) to persue archeological studies; maybe off world as well.

Hammond has passed away. O'Neill retires, gets bored, kind of misses it all and comes back when offered a chance to take Hammond's place.

So, with no constant thread, we have a team (or teams) that goes from world to world on exploration. Sometimes they encounter people in need, people in trouble, and we have humanity stories -- like Star Trek.

That was more or less how season nine started and originally it was going to be called Stargate Command instead of Stargate SG1.

Sadly though unless like before and somebody realizes how good of an idea Stargate is it's dead. But maybe if the new movies happen there'll be a renewed interest in the franchise.

 

[RoJoHen]

* Prometheus Unbound introduces us to the character of Lindsay Novak

Who only had something like two minor appearances on Atlantis, hardly anyone of real significance. Why didn't you include the episode Enemy Mine? It introduces Major Lorne, someone who is of importance to Atlantis.

* Avalon introduces us to Col. Landry, explaining who he is when he shows up in The Intruder

Maybe things aren't spelled out exactly in The Intruder, but General Landry's other Atlantis appearances make it clear he's the SGC's current CO. Besides, even in The Intruder his role isn't significant enough to warrant watching a two-part SG-1 episode as preparation.



But they're relevant to SG-1's story arcs, and have no impact on Atlantis and its story arcs at all. Hell, even The Pegasus Project has more relevance to SG-1 than it does for Atlantis.

* Unending and Ark of Truth are 'backstory' setup for Carter's arrival on Atlantis

No they don't. All the backstory and set up for Carter's arrival at Atlantis is covered in the first few season 4 episodes which do not draw on Ark of Truth at all. Hell, Ark of Truth was released after season 4 of Atlantis ended, so no one watching season 4 when it first aired had seen Ark of Truth at all.

* Continuum shows us what happens to Carter after she leaves Atlantis

Bu most of it is set in an alternate timeline which gets reset at the end. The only thing we see Carter do in the "prime" timeline in that movie is discuss a moon base with O'Neill. Hardly vital to getting the complete Atlantis experience.

It'd be like watching TNG and saying you can't get the full experience unless you also watch DS9's "Defiant" to find out what happens to Tom Riker.