Stargate CSI? The HELL????

[Brent]

I actually liked this episode, a lot. It was an entertaining diversion from the norm, and I liked it. The music was good too. The story made sense, and it was neat to see an alien like the Wraith living on our world.

I think this episode is what Ron Moore was wanting to do with Enterprise, do a few MU episodes if the series continued. SGA did well doing a totally MU episode.

 

[Yoda]

I don't know, this wasn't the best episode of Stargate, but it focused on the the more watchable characters, the plot held some intrigue, and it was a somewhat clever way of setting up the finale.

It focused on brand-new, never-before-seen characters. And any cleverness is negated by its similarities to "There But For The Grace of God". (A parallel universe where time just happens to run faster, so the enemy gets there first, allowing the good guys of the real universe to be warned in time to circle the wagons?)

They're hardly brand new characters. They're the same characters shaped by different circumstances. To me that's much more interesting than anything to do with Teyla or the new doc, Michael, Todd, etc...

I don't know if the cleverness is negated... from what I gather from a recap (amazingly I don't remember the details of a random 10 year old episode), the situations aren't similar aside from involving an alternate universe. The alternate universe is what causes the 'real universe' invasion. It didn't warn them of it.

 

[Meredith]

Yeah, Had it not been for SGA:Vegas's John Sheppard that world would have been screwed, it did screw over the folks in the SGA universe quite handily.

 

[Corran Horn]

I actually liked this episode, a lot. It was an entertaining diversion from the norm, and I liked it. The music was good too. The story made sense, and it was neat to see an alien like the Wraith living on our world.

...and it was light-years better than last week's episode.

You forgot to mention that.

 

[rac76]

I just realized that this was the only episode of this season that I watched, and what a great episode to watch! I wished the rest of the seasons were more fast paced like tonight's episode. The only part that I didn't like was seeing the sick guy being sick, I personally can't stand watching others becoming sick. So that was the only problem with the rest of the show just being really cool. Overall, I was really impressed. I'm curious to see how they tie in tonight's episode to the series finale.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

Mimicking the sillier aspects of CSI (editing, music) was annoying. It was an alt-universe story anyway. Shep was a cop because that was his job in this universe. Why make it a parody of anything? It wasn't clever or interesting, just grating. I was relieved when they pretty much dropped that nonsense halfway through.

Yeah, Had it not been for SGA:Vegas's John Sheppard that world would have been screwed, it did screw over the folks in the SGA universe quite handily.

That's the kernel of a more interesting story. What if one universe's characters realize they can save their universe at the expense of another's? We could have Our Heroes fighting each other.

And I utterly deplore the notion that Shep is gay in this universe, and he never got the chance to meet Straight Shep. Damn damn damn!!!! I wanted to see Straight Shep's reaction. Too often, alt-characters are either exactly the same or so utterly different that the original can't relate. I like the notion of characters meeting where just one thing is different, but it's something big.

And no, I don't want the story to go where yall are thinking. Well maybe...no!

 

[David cgc]

That's the kernel of a more interesting story. What if one universe's characters realize they can save their universe at the expense of another's? We could have Our Heroes fighting each other.

Stargate SG-1 9x13, "Ripple Effect"

 

[Harvey]

That's the kernel of a more interesting story. What if one universe's characters realize they can save their universe at the expense of another's? We could have Our Heroes fighting each other.

Stargate SG-1 9x13, "Ripple Effect"

True, but that episode deflates all the drama by making the other team evil, right down to having them wear the black uniforms so everyone gets the point, IIRC.

 

[DWF]

That's the kernel of a more interesting story. What if one universe's characters realize they can save their universe at the expense of another's? We could have Our Heroes fighting each other.

Stargate SG-1 9x13, "Ripple Effect"

True, but that episode deflates all the drama by making the other team evil, right down to having them wear the black uniforms so everyone gets the point, IIRC.

Well they could've given them goatees I guess including Carter.

 

[David cgc]

That's the kernel of a more interesting story. What if one universe's characters realize they can save their universe at the expense of another's? We could have Our Heroes fighting each other.

Stargate SG-1 9x13, "Ripple Effect"

True, but that episode deflates all the drama by making the other team evil, right down to having them wear the black uniforms so everyone gets the point, IIRC.

The best part of that, incidentally, was on another forum where someone complained the show was jumping the shark because no one noticed that SG-1 came back in the black uniforms, when they didn't even have black uniforms. Thanks to cognitive dissonance, they didn't change their minds even after acknowledging that I was correct when I pointed out they'd been wearing the black uniforms in almost every episode of season nine up to that point, and, moreover, they were wearing them in the walkup to the stargate in the opening titles. And this was when they were using the shortened titles, where the walkup was the only thing there, so there really was no excuse for not noticing.

 

[Valin]

I really enjoyed this episode. And the Johnny Cash music fit the scene,

 

[Ptrope]

At least the 'Shepherd" guy drove a Trans-Am. That was cool.

Actually, it was a Camaro - although either were pretty much a cliché for this story.

And I utterly deplore the notion that Shep is gay in this universe, and he never got the chance to meet Straight Shep. Damn damn damn!!!! I wanted to see Straight Shep's reaction. Too often, alt-characters are either exactly the same or so utterly different that the original can't relate. I like the notion of characters meeting where just one thing is different, but it's something big.

And no, I don't want the story to go where yall are thinking. Well maybe...no!

I'm not sure where you 'want' the story to go, but I'm pretty sure we didn't see the same one - gay Shep? I don't recall any sexuality - the closest was the nurse who asked Shep to call her, but a man blowing off a woman's attempt to hook up doesn't mean he's gay . I just got the impression that something had happened in the past, and they had two very different responses to it.

AUs don't automatically reverse every aspect, large and small, of the characters who appear in both.

BTW, I'd have to go back to the episode where we met "Rod." "Vegas" gave something of the impression that this was his home universe, but I thought 'his' Sheppard was also in the SGC, and much more scientifically-minded. Was this yet a different AU where another 'Rodney' had opened a rift, or did they all do it, in every AU?

 

[Etched]

At least the 'Shepherd" guy drove a Trans-Am. That was cool.

Actually, it was a Camaro - although either were pretty much a cliché for this story.

And I utterly deplore the notion that Shep is gay in this universe, and he never got the chance to meet Straight Shep. Damn damn damn!!!! I wanted to see Straight Shep's reaction. Too often, alt-characters are either exactly the same or so utterly different that the original can't relate. I like the notion of characters meeting where just one thing is different, but it's something big.

And no, I don't want the story to go where yall are thinking. Well maybe...no!

I'm not sure where you 'want' the story to go, but I'm pretty sure we didn't see the same one - gay Shep? I don't recall any sexuality - the closest was the nurse who asked Shep to call her, but a man blowing off a woman's attempt to hook up doesn't mean he's gay . I just got the impression that something had happened in the past, and they had two very different responses to it.

AUs don't automatically reverse every aspect, large and small, of the characters who appear in both.

BTW, I'd have to go back to the episode where we met "Rod." "Vegas" gave something of the impression that this was his home universe, but I thought 'his' Sheppard was also in the SGC, and much more scientifically-minded. Was this yet a different AU where another 'Rodney' had opened a rift, or did they all do it, in every AU?

It wasn't Rod from McKay and Mrs Miller, in his universe Sheppard was indeed part of the Atlantis expedition and by Rod's description seemed to be rather more like "our" McKay. This was a AU that the usual Stargate universe has not had any interaction with - considering that there are an infinite amount of alternate universes it seems perfectly reasonable that two AUs close to the one we're familiar with might have had some kind of interaction with one another.

 

[David cgc]

It wasn't Rod. One, because, as you said, Rod had a Sheppard in his universe who was on Atlantis and acted like a pompous twat, and two, because Rod didn't open the rift into our universe, our McKay opened the rift into his, so he'd have nothing to be embarrassed about. This was just another one of the infinite (well, very large) number of alternate universes out there, with no prior connection to our own. Their McKay had apparently opened his own alternate universe portal, either with the power generator we used, or the universe drive from "The Daedalus Variations," or any number of other methods, and encountered yet another alternate universe we never saw (or, if you insist, it could conceivably have been the "Unknown Aliens" universe from "DV"), but which was slightly more similar in that it had a Sheppard on Atlantis like us.

 

[Alpha Romeo]

Just saw ep 19 ("Vegas") -- which is a BAD pastiche of CSI. Why, oh WHY must we endure this crap? The series is about to end, and NOW we get gimmick episodes?

Jeez, this left a bad taste in my mouth.


Tony

Another basher. I actually enjoyed the episode. Try something different for once will ya?

 

[DWF]

It very well could be Rod since at the end of McKay And Mrs Miller Rodney said he didn't know for sure that Rod returned to his universe.

 

[Hermiod]

It very well could be Rod since at the end of McKay And Mrs Miller Rodney said he didn't know for sure that Rod returned to his universe.

I don't think it was Rod. This episode's McKay wasn't nearly enough of a smug dickhead to be Rod.

 

[DWF]

It very well could be Rod since at the end of McKay And Mrs Miller Rodney said he didn't know for sure that Rod returned to his universe.

I don't think it was Rod. This episode's McKay wasn't nearly enough of a smug dickhead to be Rod.

LOL!! Maybe he mellowed a bit after meeting Rodney.

 

[Etched]

It very well could be Rod since at the end of McKay And Mrs Miller Rodney said he didn't know for sure that Rod returned to his universe.

From Joe Mallozzi's blog yesterday:

2cats writes: “1) Was this McKay the same as Alt-Mckay in McKay & Mrs, Miller? There is some chatter in the ether about this.”
Answer: Not sure why there would be. There was never any indication that, out of the myriad alternate universes out there, we landed in that particular one especially since this version of Rodney was nothing like Rod.

 

[Zod]

Sorry you didn't like it. I loved it and thought it was one of the best eps they have made. Sure it wraps up nothing but we all know the show got canned before they could wrap it up nice, just like SG1.

I thought it was good fun. So I, and the 2 people I watched with, had the opposite reaction you did.