Kidding about what? Did I state the humans never won a battle against the Klingons? No.
Indeed. Membership of Starfleet alone does not seem to attract the term 'soldier' in the way that membership in the US Army does, for example, it appears to be used in the generic sense of 'one who fights in a war' when describing O'Brien's history. A role he fulfilled, as you put it, rather than a legal status. O'Brien is a Starfleet (non commissioned) Officer and as part of that he has fulfilled a range of roles. Soldier, transporter chief, helmsman, engineer, and now teacher. Given his expertise on the subject, engineering seems likely to have been his main training focus.
In the 23rd century no one group will have a monopoly on symbols or colours
I was joking. sorry I'm not good about using emojis. Q has a line about the Federation beating the Klingons because they were too dumb.
ok lol
So you keep repeating, but that doesn't make it true. Casual dismissals of the counter arguments doesn't make them invalid.
Based on what?
What makes you think the Akira or Sovereign classes are warships? The Defiant and Prometheus were presented as one off prototypes until the Defiant was retconned into a class in the final episodes of DS9 so they could reuse the sets and stock shots. And The Search goes to great lengths to show the crews shock and surprise at Starfleet building such a ship.
I had a thought about that, but the "agency" those different groups all work for was never actually named. To be sure, I don't actually think there IS a separate agency, just a whole lot of independent scientists who aren't themselves part of Starfleet but still depend on Starfleet for mission support (and Starfleet also loans them ships, equipment and personnel to this effect on an as-needed basis).
That's exactly my point. Because what ACTUALLY happened was that Mike accidentally shot Marcus in the ass during a drug bust at the beginning of the movie. Because these two guys are actually Miami PD detectives.
I'm that some psychological analysis would be appropriate this point to consider the writers' reluctance about the term "military."
Pretty much. Half the time they form the "court" out of the 3 or 4 most senior officers who happen to be nearby. They have protocols for how it's supposed to be, of course, but a Starfleet court martial isn't functionally any different from meeting with the school principal.
I'm beginning to think you've never actually seen a real military court martial.
Problematic: there's no logical reason why something that acts as a military necessarily is one. This point was explained in detail earlier in the definition of "paramilitary." To wit: history is full of examples of things that aren't militaries and may even be explicitly civilian still participating in war, preparing for war, and taking up arms in a military conflict despite never actually having the status OF a military. This is frowned upon in the modern political landscape because such paramilitaries usually wind up fighting against the interests of powerful countries in NATO and the EU. Two hundred years ago, everyone thought the paramilitary groups that opposed the British and Spanish Empires were the GOOD GUYS, and double for the private settler armies that did a lot of the grunt work in the Indian Wars.
That's the problem, you see: "Like a military" isn't context, it's a comparison. It's sort of like how the "like a duck" argument basically falls apart if the thing that "looks like a duck" is being seen at the Pirates of the Caribbean ride at Disney (in which case, it's probably not a duck, it's actually an animatronic prop).
I agree. Starfleet is not a military organization. It's a militaristic exploration fleet.
That's something I hadn't even thought of before... it could be the idea that Starfleet is a "combined service" is that it LITERALLY combines both military and non-military components into a single command structure and assign them to the same mission.
