Starfleet is a Space Navy (military fleet)

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  1. The Wormhole

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    Starfleet is a military and those who say otherwise are quoting propaganda. There, I've acknowledged both sides of the argument valid.
     
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  2. The Old Mixer

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    I really don't think that such a sexually explicit example is necessary to the discussion in this thread.
     
  3. GabyBee

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    That's just, like, your opinion, man.
     
  4. Mr. Laser Beam

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    Actually, two people.
     
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  5. The Wormhole

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    Well, yeah, of course it's my opinion. I posted it, what else would it be? Everything you post is your opinion, everything everyone posts is their opinion.
     
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    War is Peace
    Freedom is Slavery
    Ignorance is Strength
    Starfleet isn't a military
     
  7. Shamrock Holmes

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    As with a number of questions on this thread that depends on what you define as paramilitary. For instance, in the US, armed forces under the DoD (military by most definitions) are subject to court-martial, as are USCG personnel (military by law, but mostly not in practice) despite being part of DHS (and traditionally Transport or Treasury), whereas FBI HRT - despite having much of the training and equipment of SOCOM are legally civilian law enforcement and sometimes labelled paramilitary - are not subject to court-martial and are prosecuted in civilian courts.
     
  8. Nyotarules

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    And a partridge in a pear tree....with warp nacelles hanging from it.

    Anyway I see no reason to compromise about the definition of a fictional organisation
     
  9. Nerys Myk

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    What color are the nacelles?
     
  10. Nyotarules

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    rainbow stripes
     
  11. The Wormhole

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    Blue, of course.
     
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  12. jaime

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    Is the court martial in Trek basically acting as a form of 'frontier justice' as much as anything though?
     
  13. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk The Walrus Premium Member

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    Canon violation.
     
  14. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk The Walrus Premium Member

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    How so?
     
  15. jaime

    jaime Commodore Commodore

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    Um...it's two cops and one shot the other one in the rear. The last line about the box is the clincher.
     
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    Because they are ostensibly on the frontier, and a full civilian court set up is hard to come by. Hence measure of a man etc.
     
  17. jaime

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    She's quoting.
     
  18. Nyotarules

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    Did Picard say warp nacelles are not milit...er not coloured with rainbow stripes????
     
  19. jaime

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    It's a few more, those are just the most clearly defined examples. Basically every Captain has said it or something similar, and I think every first officer too.
     
  20. The Wormhole

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    I don't get what you're asking. We've seen Starfleet court martials, boards of inquiry, disciplinary hearing, you name it. They've all come of as formal, professional, and in line with such proceedings as they're depicted today.
    That never would have gone to a civilian court anyway, since the root of the matter was protesting Starfleet orders and policy.
     
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