There's actually no evidence of any of that.
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There's actually no evidence of any of that.
If Starfleet didn't cure Geordi's eyesight genetically, I don't think Down's is on sensors.
The TOS era required money or some kind of means of exchange
Maybe his parents did not want him cured, plus unless the UFP is a military dictatorship Starfleet should not be offering medical cures to UFP citizens
Kirk mentioned in ST:IV that they don't use money:
GILLIAN: Don't' tell me they don't use money in the twenty-third century.
KIRK: Well, they don't.
And from earlier in the movie (when they arrived in the late 20th century) :
KIRK: They're still using money. We've got to find some.
ST: IV didn't occur decades after TOS (well, it did in real life, just not in-universe).
Also, Tom Paris (from Voyager) mentioned that money went the way of the Dinosaur in the late 22nd century (aka, foundation of the Federation era - which is 100 years before TOS).
TOS and other Trek series did mention 'money' in an abstract sense as in 'let me buy you a drink' or 'we pay you to work'... but it wasn't meant literally in the sense that they use currency/money.
Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but Discovery didn't mention use of money (well, Stella's father is an arms dealer and likely did so outside the Federation - don't think the UFP has a tolerance for weapons dealers).
We only know Geordi was born blind, nothing was indicated about his parents saying one thing or the other... but yes, its possible his parents didn't want genetic treatment to give him natural eyesight... its also possible that back when Geordi was born the ban on genetic research may have been extensive enough to be considered borderline with problematic... or his parents may have also been luddite types... or the treatment simply speaking didn't exist (although that's highly unlikely).
They're both in Starfleet, so highly unlikely.
Not necessarily.
Owoshekun comes from a Luddite collective and she serves in Starfleet - and a Vulcan logic extremist was a Starfleet Admiral in the 23rd century.
We've seen people refusing medical treatments on personal grounds too... so, its possible Geordi's parents refused medical treatment (genetic modification) because of that, or maybe it may have been a combination of personal perceptions and the ban on genetic modification that made them adopt a firmer stance on the matter.
Still, this is pure speculation. We have no conclusive evidence to think one way or the other.
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That wouldn't be the most shocking revelation, to be honest.
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If is the 22nd or 23rd century, I could see it, although I’d probably end up being posted at a space station or starbase eventually.
In the 24th century, even though it would hold great appeal, I think I would rather get my own ship and split my time between having my own adventures and making holodeck programs.
In the 24th century, even though it would hold great appeal, I think I would rather get my own ship and split my time between having my own adventures and making holodeck programs.
Maybe he was dealing with time and was stating how many hours???Since Kirk cut Spock off, I guess we will never discover the units of Starfleet's investment into Spock, but it is a quantity of value of some sort. Probably the dreaded Federation Credits.
122,200 hours = 5092 days = 13.9 years. That's a lot of training.
He was a slow learner, he had learning difficulties122,200 hours = 5092 days = 13.9 years. That's a lot of training.
Owo isn't a Luddite. IIRC, she rejected their values to join Starfleet.
How is a Vulcan Logic Extremist a Luddite? Luddites reject technology, the Extremists are isolationists and supremacists not technophobes.
Isn't that close to the amount of time Spock had served at that time?122,200 hours = 5092 days = 13.9 years. That's a lot of training.
Owo COMES from a luddite collective... and its possible she MAY have certain technological aversions that we just don't know about (despite rejecting Luddites as a whole).
Even if Geordi's parents may not have been full blown Luddites (which we don't know)... they may have had aversion to certain technologies (which could have involved genetic modication for the purpose of giving Geordi's eyesight).
And also, we just don't know if they were Luddites in any sense of the word.
As for a Vulcan logic extremist being a luddite... I never said that. I said that a Vulcan logic extremist was a Starfleet Admiral.
My point was to illustrate that Starfleet has diverse groups of people serving in it (sometimes people with EXTREME points of views).
Every days a school day.
It could easily have been “starhours” or “starminutes”.
Bashir said that anyone with genetic modification couldn’t serve in starfleet. Perhaps Georgia parents didn’t want to deny him that opportunity.
Yes, however, there are exceptions to this rule as we saw on Voyager.
The EMH used genetic modification treatments on B'Lanna's unborn baby (Miral) to correct a spinal deformation.
So, this would imply that genetic modification for the purpose of correcting certain medical disorders IS allowed - which begs the question why hadn't this been used to treat Geordi's condition - but as it was noted in Voy episode, B'Lanna mentioned that she needed corrective surgery as a child, and the EMH mentioned that they advanced beyond that.
So its possible that the genetic treatment to repair Geordi's blindness simply didn't exist back then.
What's not allowed is ENHANCING a human beyond what would be considered 'baseline'.
Yeah but she herself isn't a Luddite, and her parents (who are Luddites) are not in Starfleet (where would be very difficult to accommodate their lifestyle).
So no, Geordie's parents are not Luddites, they are in Starfleet.
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