So rehashed nostalgia plots driven by legacy characters?
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More like the Twitter demographic ; )
What's even more bizarre is there's already a 'Starfleet Academy' -esque show amidst the Nu Trek glut.
Star Trek:Prodigy. You could easily have those young characters attend the academy in future seasons.
Only difference with this Tilly spinoff is, they could probably cater it to the more teenage/young adult demographic.
Swearing, violence, crude humor, nihilism and nudity. Things you couldn't do on a kids show like Prodigy.
But you will watch this because it is Trek. Why does the time period matter? the 32nd century is still very much unmapped so it has the possibility of being more mysterious. I think they just need to make the show interesting and not just being about half naked, hot 20 somethings pretending to be teens.
I am crossing my fingers that the final Picard reveals aren't so pathetic.
But we've entered the brave new world of Twitter post-Elon, so that bubble might be popping as that platform reverts to the median. And film/tv production wise, it's no longer 2019/2020. Many companies are making course corrections.
At least the time period of the setting makes it easier to disregard. It would be a lot harder if they set it in the early 25th century, and went in this direction while also throwing the discretionary budget at legacy actors to cameo here and there.
I'm just really hoping this is a fig leaf to Kurtzman while the field is otherwise cleared for Terry Matalas to take on the "present day".
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We don't always agree, but....I have to say I agree here. I love season 3 of Picard and I'm glad everyone else does, too, but this is absolutely not the future of Trek. Picard season 3 is just pure nostalgia in almost every sense. Good nostalgia. But it's just not offering up anything new.
Great day for Star Trek. Shows that the franchise isn’t deadYup. There goes my interest in being a Star Trek fan after Picard S3 ends. Happy we got one last hurrah with that season.
In a way, it's a relief. I don't want to be a defender of this franchise when they greenlight crap like this.
Tilly spinoffShowrunner of CW's Nancy Drew.. Tawny Newsome's crude, lowbrow 'comedy'..
Sad day for Star Trek.
Haha just realized that the UPN note to ENT to have a different boy band every week could be easily implemented here 
Indeed. And my comment should not be me disparaging the season. It's doing a decent job. But, it isn't setting anything new on the table to craft from. It's not boldly going anywhere but reflecting on the past. That's not the future.
Sometimes fire catches with characters in those plots. Take Captain Shaw, a great character that I'd love to see a show with him at the helm.
Pike in Discovery has spun into Strange New Worlds, which while there are some legacy characters, is an opportunity to tell new stories.
SNW is heavily built upon nostalgia too, in a way its the premise of the whole show.
We don’t need another TNG legacy crew show after S3. But they put in place new characters and foremost season 3 showed that newer Star Trek shows can after all produce high quality episodes in terms of pacing, cinematography, soundtrack and suspense.
No problem with a new crew, Disco 32nd century Trek has been a failure from the start though.
Agreed. The biggest loss here is the 'opportunity cost' like you said. Funding a 32nd Century Trek show, expensive as it is, makes it unlikely we'll get anything else.
The current financial situation at Paramount isn't really ideal for another Trek series on top of this. .
Ok, but we have SNW still. It didn't disappear.
It comes down to characters and storytelling. The setting is largely secondary or tertiary. Season 3 has utilized it's elements in a way that appeals to many but it isn't the future. We don't need 24th, 25th, or 32nd century Trek. Just interesting characters and stories. Period.
No idea what to think of this.
If it's in the 25th century, fine. This idea was swirling around a long time, it's not bad (if a bit bland), and reasonably different from the other Trek series, so would make a ton of sense.
If it truly is in the 32nd century, I have no fucking clue what the fuck they are doing. This century has barely anything to do with anything Starfleet Academy we ever knew of, and only the die-hard DISCO fans even know about the 32nd century, the burn, and everything. It's just weird. Like calling a show "Jedi Academy", and then it's just Yoda training a bunch of younglings on Dagobah before he met Luke...
If it's in the 25th century, fine. This idea was swirling around a long time, it's not bad (if a bit bland), and reasonably different from the other Trek series, so would make a ton of sense.
If it truly is in the 32nd century, I have no fucking clue what the fuck they are doing. This century has barely anything to do with anything Starfleet Academy we ever knew of, and only the die-hard DISCO fans even know about the 32nd century, the burn, and everything. It's just weird. Like calling a show "Jedi Academy", and then it's just Yoda training a bunch of younglings on Dagobah before he met Luke...
They just need to find a neighborhood in Toronto with ultra-modern architecture and film there (proof of concept, the PICARD Short Trek prequel). CW shows were done for $2-3 million per episode. I could see them trying something like that here.
What's really crazy is that instead of demographic micro-targeting, they should be going four quadrant. But again this one at least is targeting the Gen Z "modern audience" on a budget.
So besides SNW, the only other Trek series on offer is this 32nd century set Starfleet Academy series which doesn't really interest me.
I have not been nor continue to be interested in a Starfleet Academy series... I want exploration in my Star Trek. The fact they keep going back to Earth instead of exploring drives me up the wall.
I do hope it's good. I hope they convince me otherwise. I really do.
I do hope it's good. I hope they convince me otherwise. I really do.
I've been pretty bummed out since Discovery's cancellation, and I was starting to get worried that new shows would just be vaudevillian greatest hits parades of "remember this guy" series and episodes. This announcement has gone a long way to make me feel excited about Trek again.
Dude, it's the same as every other series except the nacelles float
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