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Spoilers Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker - Grading & Discussion

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First watching it since it was in cinema's, second time total.

Yeah, I still see flaws some people think is a capital offence meaning some people should be murdered. I also still see a very entertaining movie that, with having rewatched TFA and TLJ this weekend, really works quite well for personally. Which, I know, is insane according to some. Actually enjoying a movie for your own reasons. That's not how a fan should behave. ;) ;)

It also made realize how insanely popular the prequels have become. Basically, the ST takes place in a period of 12 or 15 months, right? And one of the huge things fans be tripping over how fast Rey mastered the Force. I keep thinking about how Luke, with any training either, already let the Force guide him in ANH and only had a bit of training from one master really. Yoda. Ben only opened the door. Rey had both Luke for a bit and Leia. So no real difference there. Except for about an average of 5,5 inches which seems to be the biggest issue for many.

It was the prequels that told us it takes years and years and years of training to wield a lightsaber properly, to truly master the nuances of the Force. Luke didn't. Few weeks in a swamp and he put up a pretty decent fight with his old man.
"Yeah, but like has like mighty Skywalker blood in him, super Force sensitive you know?" Sure, if it's about DNA then, I'd venture to say Palpatine ain't half crap.

Oh, and Force heal?? Please don't start there. KOTOR, one of the most popular Star Wars games ever and part of Legends, already had Force heal as a Force power. And considering Legends was at some point canon and many fans still hold to that.....
 
I've never understood how one movie or whatever can ruin an entire franchise that's been around for decades, and releases a constant stream of content, much of which isn't even related to that movie or whatever. It's fine if you don't like that, but I don't see why that would be a reason to write off all of the other stuff coming from the franchise. So far Rise of Skywalker has had very little real impact on things like The Mandalorian, or the majority of the books and comics, so there's no reason a person who doesn't like it can't just pretend it doesn't exist.
Hell, I don't like Nemesis or These Are the Voyages, but that hasn't ruined Star Trek for me. There are a whole bunch of books that I love that are directed spun off from both of those.
 
The thing that's going to ruin the Star Wars franchise isn't any piece of the franchise itself. It's a certain subset of fans who just can't let go of their anger and hatred. The ones who go into the comment section of every article about SW and complain about something, the ones who make 3 hour videos about why a particular movie was "THE WORST THING EVER!!!!!!!" If something is making you that angry, step away. Go watch something else. This relentless negativity is not helping.

I'm not saying that people have to like every part of SW. I'm not saying that no one can ever say something negative. But at some point, you just have to let go.
 
There is not a single thing that could ruin the OT Star Wars forever. It's a logically fallacy on its face and needs to be binned with the rest of the garbage.

I didn't like every single facet of SW when it was just the OT. Why in the world would I like all of it when there was even more installments?

It aren't that hard to figure out.
 
People out there think the events RotJ have been invalidated because the storyline carried on in TFA (and much later on Zombie Clone Palpatine surfaced), decrying the victory at Endor as a false dawn (and the New Republic era as a meaningless honeymoon period).

They can't conceptualize what would've happened if the Rebels were destroyed at Endor and the Death Star II was completed, with the Empire not shattered.

If our boi Sheev Palpatine won Endor, not only would the Skywalker lineage be confined in darkness for all eternity, the core of the Rebellion would be annihilated, with coherent galactic resistence destroyed for potentially centuries/millennia, and Palpatine being strategically nearly invincible with no interruption - imagine the completed Death Star II tactically bolstered by squadrons of Eclipse-class Star Dreadnoughts (with strategic support from SKB). And Palpatine's overstreatched fleets getting bolstered and rebuilt endlessly by squadrons of Supremacy-class Star Dreadnoughts from the edge of the galaxy.
 
The First Order and Final Order were a last gasp of the Empire. A good gasp, but one that was in power of the Galaxy for a year, with the Final Order being an open threat to the galaxy for basically a few days before the Resistance rallied the galaxy to crush Palpatine and his Final Order.

The New Republic lasted for about 30 years (longer than the Galactic Empire), but had similar problems to that of the Old Republic. So its up to the victors and the rest of the Galaxy to either restart the Republic, or come up with some other idea. One assumes Rey will train new Jedi, or she will let it die. Let those that come later discover how the Force works on their own without Masters of the light or dark to guide them.
 
One assumes Rey will train new Jedi, or she will let it die. Let those that come later discover how the Force works on their own without Masters of the light or dark to guide them.

I hope the latter is the case. Rebuilding the Jedi is Luke's job, not Rey's.
 
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