Of course it isn't universally popular. I agree that it's an exception, but I think it's an exception because it feels like the first piece of Star Wars media since Disney started that has focused more on existing fans than general audiences.
Spoilers Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker - Grading & Discussion
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Of course it isn't universally popular. I agree that it's an exception, but I think it's an exception because it feels like the first piece of Star Wars media since Disney started that has focused more on existing fans than general audiences.
Except, I'm part of the existing fan and it doesn't hook me in. I would rather see the universe continue to expand, and relying on bounty hunters is not my idea.
I'm glad many enjoy it and I hope that they continue to do so! It's just not for me, thus far.
It was in the books and games for years. It’s even mentioned as one of the reasons Vader doesn’t seem as powerful once he’s in the suit, he’s trying to heal himself as much as he can and that takes a lot of focus.
I'm probably about to say something that will get me ex-communicated...
I'm tired of Baby Yoda.
Okay, but that's only one fan... Just talking generally.
I remember people loving the idea of baby Groot at the end of Guardians 1 and then getting sick of how much he was used in the advertising for Guardians 2. The same kinda thing will probably happen with Baby Yoda. People tend to get over that kind of character really fast.
I own Beyond Thunderdome on Blu-ray. I need to revisit it here soon.
I remember when people liked Ewoks.
When was that? I've only ever known most people to tolerate Ewoks.
I never did. Though I'm not a big fan of Return of the Jedi. I do like the Porgs though.
I love Ewoks, the Ewok Adventures was my first exposure to Star Wars.
Let's see. My friends and I creating Ewok fan art. Long distance friends who's first introduction to Star Wars was the Ewok movies and ROTJ.
Me having a plush Ewok. My friends and I playing Battlefront 2 taking out Imperials with Ewoks.
All of this before the Internet told me to hate them.
I know its a rare sight
I was born in 84 so I was raised on Ewoks being an accepted part of Star Wars. So they were never a late addition to me, they had always been there. Plus my sister had a huge plush Wicket and that was my only Star Wars toy during my early childhood.Nostalgia is a hell of a drug.
I’m sorry. I’m not well versed in the EU material where these ideas have already been explored
You can understand that I don’t know about anything outside of what’s been presented in the movies
Which is why you’ll get reactions like “where did that come from?”
I’m a fan of the franchise but I haven’t dived that deep into it
I did a two minute google search and figure out that both Force Projection and The Emperor surviving were part of "Dark Empire."
It wasn't a deep dive.
It wasn't a deep dive.
It’s on the Mandalorian too. Baby Yoda can do it, a grown woman should be capable as well.
I got to see the movie the other day, and I'm still processing some things. I haven't quite decided on a letter grade, but I do want to share some of my thoughts:
Good stuff:
I enjoyed seeing Rey progress in her training and having to confront aspects of the dark side, particularly her anger. It would have been nice to see Evil!Rey pop up a few more times, even just as as a force vision, so Daisy could have fun doing both aspects.
I really enjoyed seeing the wrecked throne room with some of the ROTJ musical cues; I probably consider that my favorite sequence at the moment.
Stuff that's less good:
I agree with some of the other opinions regarding some things. The pace of the movie is a bit too frenetic and doesn't take the time to fill in some details that are interesting and even (IMO) essential to the story. I don't mind that Rey happens to be Palpatine's granddaughter, but why weren't her parents given more to do? Why didn't Palpatine's son follow in his footsteps, and why would the Emperor seemingly allow him to run away (however temporarily)?
In the last movie we saw that Leia apparently couldn't get any real military support against the First Order, but Lando apparently got hundreds of ships in a very short span of time? As much as I love both Lando and huge fleet battles, I admit the splash shot of the cavalry fleet actually seemed too large to me. And I rarely say that sort of thing.
Clearly, Leia should have just called him in the prior movie.
I also have some issues regarding ideas that looked good on paper but are just poorly executed IMO. Threepio's memory wipe is one of the worst, as it seems a bit disturbing to me that his friends just want to hack into his mind for the information when they know it's both intrusive and potentially harmful to him (it would make him lose his essential personality... which lasted a short time anyway). I can see where Palpatine or someone else connected with the Sith would have put in a programming barrier, but I don't really like the sequence as done in the movie. It could have been handled far better.
I'm mixed at the moment regarding some of the more exotic Force abilities we get to see. While it's true that many offscreen sources have expanded elements of Jedi training and mentioned specific powers, some of the stuff like the teleporting necklace/lightsaber seemed a bit too much for me. I'd need to watch it again to form a better opinion. I don't think that doing things different is always bad, but how it's executed makes a difference. Even Rey unwittingly using Force lightning felt off to me, because I tend to see that as more of a trained ability (and one more tied to the dark side than the light), but YMMV.
This was actually addressed when the Emperor was brought back for the Dark Empire series. He had learned how to effectively merge his essence with the dark side, given him an incredible amount of power, and he was shown created "Force Storms" late in the comic which sucked in stuff around them. But he also learned quickly that this degree of power, which was very addictive, was also highly destructive to organic bodies. Palpatine began using clones to sustain himself, because if his essence became disembodied in the dark side without a vessel, it would be like an eternity in negativity and pain. An endless torment where he couldn't escape the pain and couldn't influence anything in the outside world. Having a physical body, if only temporarily, allowed him to channel a lot of the dark side while avoiding the worst aspects of it.
Agreed. I like Palpatine earlier in the movie, but the rapid pace later means he seems to be shuffling through ideas at the confrontation with Rey. Another area where it could have been smoothed over IMO. Maybe the rebels should build a giant surge protector against Force lightning?
Good stuff:
I enjoyed seeing Rey progress in her training and having to confront aspects of the dark side, particularly her anger. It would have been nice to see Evil!Rey pop up a few more times, even just as as a force vision, so Daisy could have fun doing both aspects.
I really enjoyed seeing the wrecked throne room with some of the ROTJ musical cues; I probably consider that my favorite sequence at the moment.
Stuff that's less good:
I agree with some of the other opinions regarding some things. The pace of the movie is a bit too frenetic and doesn't take the time to fill in some details that are interesting and even (IMO) essential to the story. I don't mind that Rey happens to be Palpatine's granddaughter, but why weren't her parents given more to do? Why didn't Palpatine's son follow in his footsteps, and why would the Emperor seemingly allow him to run away (however temporarily)?
In the last movie we saw that Leia apparently couldn't get any real military support against the First Order, but Lando apparently got hundreds of ships in a very short span of time? As much as I love both Lando and huge fleet battles, I admit the splash shot of the cavalry fleet actually seemed too large to me. And I rarely say that sort of thing.
Clearly, Leia should have just called him in the prior movie. I also have some issues regarding ideas that looked good on paper but are just poorly executed IMO. Threepio's memory wipe is one of the worst, as it seems a bit disturbing to me that his friends just want to hack into his mind for the information when they know it's both intrusive and potentially harmful to him (it would make him lose his essential personality... which lasted a short time anyway). I can see where Palpatine or someone else connected with the Sith would have put in a programming barrier, but I don't really like the sequence as done in the movie. It could have been handled far better.
I'm mixed at the moment regarding some of the more exotic Force abilities we get to see. While it's true that many offscreen sources have expanded elements of Jedi training and mentioned specific powers, some of the stuff like the teleporting necklace/lightsaber seemed a bit too much for me. I'd need to watch it again to form a better opinion. I don't think that doing things different is always bad, but how it's executed makes a difference. Even Rey unwittingly using Force lightning felt off to me, because I tend to see that as more of a trained ability (and one more tied to the dark side than the light), but YMMV.
This was actually addressed when the Emperor was brought back for the Dark Empire series. He had learned how to effectively merge his essence with the dark side, given him an incredible amount of power, and he was shown created "Force Storms" late in the comic which sucked in stuff around them. But he also learned quickly that this degree of power, which was very addictive, was also highly destructive to organic bodies. Palpatine began using clones to sustain himself, because if his essence became disembodied in the dark side without a vessel, it would be like an eternity in negativity and pain. An endless torment where he couldn't escape the pain and couldn't influence anything in the outside world. Having a physical body, if only temporarily, allowed him to channel a lot of the dark side while avoiding the worst aspects of it.
Agreed. I like Palpatine earlier in the movie, but the rapid pace later means he seems to be shuffling through ideas at the confrontation with Rey. Another area where it could have been smoothed over IMO. Maybe the rebels should build a giant surge protector against Force lightning?
