^Well, in his defense, it was The Phantom Menace.
Star Wars: The Clone Wars S4
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Any episode with the Nightsisters tends to get "out there".
Weird -- an episode without a single good guy in it. Although I guess Ventress was the one we were supposed to sympathize with. But this didn't really do much for me, with all the hocus-pocus and zombies and Dooku-voodoo (Voodooku?) going on. I don't quite get how traditional magic like this fits into a universe of Force sensitives and Jedi and such. I mean, presumably it's a manifestation of the dark side of the Force, but why does it manifest so differently for these beings than it does for everyone else? And it seems to be doing things I've never known the Force to be capable of, like the whole reanimation thing.
I like that one.The Nightsisters use a different system. The more you go outside the Sith-Jedi system, the more weird stuff outside of the norm is possible including time and space travel.
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Yeah. Okey-dokey is really about all I have to say about the Nightsisters in general. Clearly on the sorcery end of the swords and sorcery genre. Of course, with the all but total elimination of the coven, they'll have fewer opportunities to participate in future events. Perhaps this reduction in numbers partially "explains" their apparent incongruity in the Star Wars universe of the OT. Only Ventress and Mother Talzin got out that I saw.
Yeah. Okey-dokey is really about all I have to say about the Nightsisters in general. Clearly on the sorcery end of the swords and sorcery genre. Of course, with the all but total elimination of the coven, they'll have fewer opportunities to participate in future events. Perhaps this reduction in numbers partially "explains" their apparent incongruity in the Star Wars universe of the OT. Only Ventress and Mother Talzin got out that I saw.
All it's missing is eye of newt?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that I hate it or anything. I'm simply acknowledging and agreeing with what was pointed out upthread: the Nightsisters arc uses tropes from a part of fantasy that no other part of Star Wars does.
My point was that some valve needs to operate to explain why this stuff isn't more pervasive in the Star Wars universe later on. All but wiping them out accomplishes that.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that I hate it or anything. I'm simply acknowledging and agreeing with what was pointed out upthread: the Nightsisters arc uses tropes from a part of fantasy that no other part of Star Wars does.
My point was that some valve needs to operate to explain why this stuff isn't more pervasive in the Star Wars universe later on. All but wiping them out accomplishes that.
Yeah, and any number of other things could accomplish the same thing. It's not like I said that was the only way it could happen.
See, that explanation just makes it even worse. If it's not the Force, if it doesn't grow out of the established ground rules and cosmology of the SW universe, then it feels tacked on and inconsistent. A fictional universe, even a fantasy one, should feel consistent and logically interconnected within itself, rather than just being a bunch of random tropes slapped together.
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Do we know how Mitchells Godly powers work?
Is it consistent with anything in Trek?
Someone mentioned Dooku waited a long time for his revenge. With the chronology jumping this series has done, these last 4 episodes could take place right after the Witches of the Mist.
If you only knew the POWER of the Dark Side. The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the FORCE.
And then the fact that the Force was compared to ancient superstition, religion and sorcerer's ways may indicate there is more to the Force than what we've seen in 6 movies, 3 of which only had a handful of Force users.
If you only knew the POWER of the Dark Side. The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the FORCE.
And then the fact that the Force was compared to ancient superstition, religion and sorcerer's ways may indicate there is more to the Force than what we've seen in 6 movies, 3 of which only had a handful of Force users.
I enjoyed the episode overall. I don't mind the fact that the Witches powers differ so drastically from the Jedi/Sith's. I don't see where it would be that hard to accept that different groups could use the Force in different ways.
How close is what we've seen to how they were presented in the novels? I've read The Courtship of Princess Leia, but it's been years and I don't really remember much of it. The only thing I really remember is that Dathomir was more of a jungle, there was a Light Side group that countered the Nightsisters, and the NS rode Rancors.
How close is what we've seen to how they were presented in the novels? I've read The Courtship of Princess Leia, but it's been years and I don't really remember much of it. The only thing I really remember is that Dathomir was more of a jungle, there was a Light Side group that countered the Nightsisters, and the NS rode Rancors.
I agree. The Force is supposed to be some big fat honkin' thing that controls fate and destiny and the whole universe & stuff. The Jedi vs Sith stuff is incredibly important because they are tapped into something that is incredibly important.
To start saying, "hey wait there's this other thing too" just takes all the air out of the whole epic-ness of the SW universe. Instead, the Nightsisters arc should be used as an opportunity to further explain the Force/Jed/Sith thing.
It's much better if the Nightsisters are part of the same big system, and their story gives us a little more insight into how the system works. I'm okay with the notion that they can utilize the Force somewhat differently from the Jedi or the Sith. Who says the Jedi have all the answers? But if they're doing something smart that the Jedi haven't thought of, it should be placed in that context, not explained away by, it's just different.
In the EU there are a ton of other Force Users who AFAIK aren't related to the Jedi or Sith. There was a whole plot line about one of Leia and Han's sons spending years traveling around the galaxy learning from a bunch of different groups of Force Users, who all had different powers.
That was Jacen...and he was being manipulated by Vergere who was in secret a Sith and manipulating his philosophical ideas of the Force. this in turn allowed him to become susceptible to Dark Side teachings and he later became Darth Cadeus 
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