Spoilers Star Wars Resistance Season One discussion

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  1. kitik

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    When they showed the Colossus submerging in the season preview trailer a few months ago, I just assumed that it would be used as a trick to scare the First Order off the station. It didn't quite go as I expected.

    Of all the ways to get to the communications array, that probably isn't in the top 100.

    That said, how about that CB-23? Wouldn't you all love to have your own personal little scuba droid?

    I honestly thought things were getting serious when they killed Bucket.
     
  2. flavaflav

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    This was, by far, my favorite episode yet. The submerged Colossus definitely didn't go the way I thought it would. I thought Bucket was meeting the Maker too. Floor buffer guy was back!
     
  3. Christopher

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    Yeah, sinking the whole station is a pretty drastic solution for just sending out a message. I mean, if they could leave the station to swim up to the antenna, couldn't they just swim or take some kind of submersible craft far enough to get outside the jamming field?

    I'm pretty sure that Leia's reply message took longer than the depicted interval between Kaz sending his message and the reply being received. The firefight by the antenna must've taken longer than shown.
     
  4. The Wormhole

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    I like how they're starting to tie everything from the season into the main arc that previously seemed unrelated, like this turtle engineers. They seem to be setting up Tam to be siding with the First Order. Perhaps she'll actually be working with them in the second season?
     
  5. Reverend

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    I'm trying to mentally line up roughly where we are in the timeline of TFA and I think I have it about figured out (note: obviously the day lengths of Jakku and Castilon are unlikely to be the same, much less the timezones of Neema & the Colossus so there's bound to be some wiggle room by at least a few hours either way): -

    OK, so Poe was captured on Jakku at night, we then got a quick overview of Rey's daily routine, ending with her finding BB-8 just before sundown, meaning BB-8 was out in the desert almost the whole day and maybe most of the previous night. Next we see Rey & BB-8 at Neema in broad daylight followed by Poe's escape with Finn and their crash in the desert (also in broad daylight), followed by Finn walking for presumably several hours, arriving at Neema Outpost at what looks like high noon in the shots of Finn drinking, but either late afternoon or early morning in all the others. Plus it seems likely Rey did some salvage work prior to arriving at Neema (because 1) she needs to eat and 2) we see her trade some before Unkar Plutt tried to buy BB-8) so I'm inclined to go with the latter.
    That means by the time Rey & Finn leave on the Falcon it's been almost two full days since the village massacre. From there until the destruction of the Hosnian system everything seems to happen more or less in real time with no significant time cuts, so a few hours at most making it almost exactly two days, perhaps a little more since the movie began.
    From there I'd say it's at most another day, maybe as little as 12 hours from Snap's recon flight to Starkiller, "rescuing" Rey and getting everyone (except Han) back to D'Qar. So that's at least three full days, maybe three and a half. Where it gets a little fuzzy is how much time passed between R2 & BB completing the map and Rey leaving. Since both she and Leia appear to completely change costumes, so it's fair to assume that's day four or five.
    How long it took the Falcon to make it to Ahch-To and how much time passed between Rey leaving and the First Order dreadnought showing up is also a bit fuzzy, but since Leia changes outfits and hairdo again, I'm thinking at least another day, if not two.

    From there on out it's a pretty explicit timeline with the Resistance fleet having 18 hours of fuel left to get to Crait at sub-light, following what can't be more than a day in hyperspace, max. Rey spending at least a day and two nights on Ahch-To (though like Dagobah, time there may be acting weird.) And a few hours at most to cram in everything from Finn, Rose & Rey making it back to the final flight out on the Falcon before the credits roll.

    On the Resistance side of things; in 'The Core Problem' Kaz got back to the Colossus after parting ways with Poe (who said he's leaving for Jakku "tomorrow") at night time. The next episode 'The Disappeared' starts in daytime and again ends at night with several characters leaving for Takodana. So that's a full day since Poe left meaning he's either already on Jakku, or already captured at this point. 'Descent' picks up right where the last episode left off and takes it through the night and into broad daylight (it clearly progresses from dawn in the scenes with Doza, Torra & Pyre, to noon-ish with the sinking of the station.)

    So as of right now, Poe is still trying to make his way off Jakku, Rey & Finn may have or are just about to run into each other. So we're a few hours away from the destruction of Hosnian system and the attack on Maz's castle where Hype & Aunt Z are still probably located. Note that Leia appears to give Kaz the coordinates of Crait, so she's already planning on evacuating D'Qar, even before Starkiller Base attacks.

    TLDR: TFA = 4-5 days, TLJ = 2-3 days. SWR is currently on day 2 of 7/8
     
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  6. Tuskin38

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    Well we know Hux's speech is going to show up at some point in the next two episodes.

    That will really narrow it down.
     
  7. ALF

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    Nice summary. Just like to add - in my 'head canon' or whatever, I imagine it took Phasma a few days to...
    do the things she was supposed to do between 7 and 8 as depicted in the comics - specifically the Captain Phasma miniseries. Wasn't she hunting down some stormtroopers who knew about her deactivating Starkiller Base's shields? I read the comic once but it wasn't memorable.

    To make things worse, I think someone said time moves differently on Luke's island planet Ahch-to - even though I'm sure that on one Rebels Recon, Pablo said all the planets in the Star Wars universe experience night/day cycles at the same time. Which of course we all know is impossible. :D But simpler is often best in storytelling. BSG is a great example of this - they happen to have 12 habitable planets in one solar system.

    I was thinking the station might be toast by then, and the show moves to the Resistance base on D'Qar. What do you think? Too early for that? Are people tired of the Colossus station, or do we want more of this setting?

    Tam's story might be best if she does join the First Order, sees firsthand how horrible they are and then defects back to the Resistance near the end of the series.

    Ah, the bitey fish. There's a trope in the making there - make sure if we come up with a Star Wars: Resistance drinking game: take a big drink for every scene with a bitey fish.

     
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  8. The Wormhole

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    That really doesn't make much sense at all, although it does seem to be the case in TLJ. When it's night on Canto Bight, it's night on Luke's island and on Snoke's ship. Although, the recent novel Queen's Shadow does have planet's being on different times being a plot point.
    Whether or not the Colossus is still around in the second season is one thing (I'm inclined to think it will, but we'll see). They're definitely not going to D'Qar though, given that's abandoned at the start of TLJ. Indeed, I would imagine that at the point the show is currently at, there's already plans to abandon D'Qar anyway, given Leia tells Kaz in the most recent episode to go to the Resistance's new base.
     
  9. Reverend

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    It'd say at least a day sounds about right. However long it was, I do remember it ending with her meeting back up with Hux aboard the Finalizer, so clearly still prior to TLJ with no overlap.

    My money is on the Colossus lifting off and leaving Castilon to become a new mobile base/mothership for the resistance post TLJ.
     
  10. Christopher

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    Plausible. I doubt they'd abandon the digital models/sets they built for the Colossus after a single season.
     
  11. Reverend

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    Digital assets can always be repurposed, this is more about the time and story invested in the Colossus and it's culture as a character unto itself.
     
  12. Christopher

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    It can be both, just as in a live-action show. To put it another way, they wouldn't have spent so much money on the big, elaborate Colossus sets if their story needs hadn't called for using it on a long-term basis. So it's still about the story. They invested so much money in creating the sets because they intended to invest time and attention in that location on a continuing basis.

    And let's get real -- Resistance is so cheap with its CG assets that it can't even let Torra take off her flight armor in her bedroom. If they can't afford to modify one character's wardrobe, they're sure as hell not going to toss out all their major sets in one go.
     
  13. Reverend

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    You're putting the cart before the horse. They're not going to make major plot decisions based solely on the asset budget. It's a factor sure, but not a deciding one; story and character comes first and if it's in the best interests of the story to blow the Colossus up, then that's what they'll do. In this instance, I think it's in the best interests of the story for the Colossus to change and relocate.

    RE: character models and budgets. Rebels was the same way. All of the primary cast's models were changed by increments to a greater or lesser degree over the course of the show, but it wasn't until the final season that the finally got Hera out of her flight cowl. Hell, it took even longer to get her to actually use those goggles that had been glued to her head all those years!
    None of that stopped them leaving Lothal behind for an extended period of time, modelling new characters, creatures and whole cities for one-off appearances. Why? Because the latter were necessary for storytelling, the former was purely cosmetic and thus not a priority.

    Also: are you seriously arguing with me over *why* I might be right about something? Come on, even you can't be that pedantic! :lol:
     
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  14. Christopher

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    ^I wasn't "arguing," I was offering an additional perspective that complemented your own. I wish you'd stop seeing every conversation as a fight.
     
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  15. Tuskin38

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    Well today's episode

    Confirms the theory that the Colossus is space worthy, but it goes one step further, it has a hyperdrive.
     
  16. Ithekro

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    I suddenly get a old Droid World (Klingson's Moon) vibe from that information.
     
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  17. Christopher

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    Well, now we know exactly where the timeline stands relative to the movies. That was a pretty potent ending, but
    the way Kaz's dialogue at the opening reminded the viewers of "my homeworld, Hosnian Prime" could've been a bit smoother, and it's weird that he couldn't recognize his home planet on sight at the end there. It would've made it even more of a gut punch if he'd recognized his homeworld before it was destroyed.
     
  18. Reverend

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    Well yeah, I assumed the one goes with the other since what's the point of it flying if it's stuck in the same system? Also: how else would it have gotten there in the first place?

    That last part actually raises an interesting question: how old is the Colossus? For the people living there (besides Doza, presumably) to be unaware of it's full capabilities I'm thinking it goes back at least as far as the Clone Wars, if not further.
     
  19. CorporalCaptain

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    I think we can scratch Tam off the list of possible First Order spies. I mean, yeah, she could theoretically be under deep cover and only pretending to be getting swayed and recruited, but that would undermine the whole notion that people can fall for propaganda and coddling that's being treated before us. Moreover, I don't think it's likely that an actual hardcore and competent spy would have defended Yeager to Agent Tierny, even one under deep cover. Tam is really coming off as someone who is surprised to have learned that her friends and associates were Resistance spies and as someone who can be molded into a First Order recruit but doesn't yet belong.

    P.S.
    It's a spoiler thread. We don't need to SPOILER-code spoilers. ;)
     
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  20. The Wormhole

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    Maybe he did recognize the planet but was in a state of denial so needed it confirmed?