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Star Wars Rebels Season Three (spoilers)

In Zahn's trilogy that introduced the character of Thrawn it's mentioned the Palleon took over the Chimera's captain after his predecessor died in battle and that Thrawn found him and the ship rather than already being aboard or has that be totally decanonised? now?

Like the rest of the EU, nothing in the Thrawn trilogy was ever canon. It's only now that the character himself has been adapted into canon. So no, none of those events "happened" in this continuity.
 
If I were the betting type, I'd put money on Kallus going the way or Ruhk by the end of the season (who BTW got a name drop in this episode as Thrawn's override code.) So yes, I don't think we'll be seeing Thrawn in season 4 either.

Maybe Kallus goes into hiding, since we see him in Ezra's tower (for some reason) during the second season 3 trailer.

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I think reprogramming Thrawn's map of rebel base candidates is going to backfire. He probably had the old map memorized already, and as soon as he notices that one of the candidates has been deleted, he'll know it's the base. I'm surprised they didn't reveal that in the last scene.
That was my interpretation of the scene in which Thrawn looks at the map after it's been modified is that he knows. I guess it's now an issue of does he actually know which planet has been removed, or just that a planet has been.
If I were the betting type, I'd put money on Kallus going the way or Ruhk by the end of the season (who BTW got a name drop in this episode as Thrawn's override code.) So yes, I don't think we'll be seeing Thrawn in season 4 either.
I used to think earlier in the season that Kallus was going to serve the role of Thrawn's creepy bodyguard in the novels, but now I'm not so sure. Given that Thrawn knows Kallus is a traitor, Thrawn most certainly isn't going to lower his guard around him.
In Zahn's trilogy that introduced the character of Thrawn it's mentioned the Palleon took over the Chimera's captain after his predecessor died in battle and that Thrawn found him and the ship rather than already being aboard or has that be totally decanonised? now?
Yeah, none of that's canon anymore. Though they have kept the name Chimaera as Thrawn's flagship, which even got mentioned in dialogue in this episode. IIRC, they haven't yet mentioned who the captain of Chimaera is on the show, have they? Could be Pellaeon, though I doubt at this point they'll address it on the show anyway, especially since we already have plenty of authority figures on the Chimaera, Thrawn, Admiral Konstantine, Governor Pryce, and maybe Yularen, if he's sticking around. I'll be surprised if the name Pellaeon is nowhere to be found in the upcoming Thrawn novel, though.
I think he actually saying Aurek (Aka the letter A)

Maybe someone could have a look at the subtitles
According to this site it is indeed Rukh.
 
That was my interpretation of the scene in which Thrawn looks at the map after it's been modified is that he knows. I guess it's now an issue of does he actually know which planet has been removed, or just that a planet has been.

But Kallus instructed Chopper to put in a decoy planet to replace the one he removed, so the number of candidates would be unchanged. So the only way Thrawn would notice the change was if he knew that specific planet had been replaced by a different one.
 
That was my interpretation of the scene in which Thrawn looks at the map after it's been modified is that he knows. I guess it's now an issue of does he actually know which planet has been removed, or just that a planet has been.

I used to think earlier in the season that Kallus was going to serve the role of Thrawn's creepy bodyguard in the novels, but now I'm not so sure. Given that Thrawn knows Kallus is a traitor, Thrawn most certainly isn't going to lower his guard around him.

Yeah, none of that's canon anymore. Though they have kept the name Chimaera as Thrawn's flagship, which even got mentioned in dialogue in this episode. IIRC, they haven't yet mentioned who the captain of Chimaera is on the show, have they? Could be Pellaeon, though I doubt at this point they'll address it on the show anyway, especially since we already have plenty of authority figures on the Chimaera, Thrawn, Admiral Konstantine, Governor Pryce, and maybe Yularen, if he's sticking around. I'll be surprised if the name Pellaeon is nowhere to be found in the upcoming Thrawn novel, though.

According to this site it is indeed Rukh.
Maybe Thrawn doesn't have a captain under him in this continuity

IIRC Admiral Piett was the commanding officer of the Executor. I don't recall him having a captain under him.
 
Maybe Thrawn doesn't have a captain under him in this continuity

IIRC Admiral Piett was the commanding officer of the Executor. I don't recall him having a captain under him.

Doesn't seem to have been.

According to wookiepedia, Ozzel was in command of the Executor prior to his demise and while Piett was a captain prior to his promotion he's listed as having been her C.O prior to his promotion to flag rank.

Maybe a ship that size was deemed to important to be commanded by a mere captain given her size, crew and weaponary were more than some fleets (were an Admiral would normally have overall command though not the ship command).

Also It's possible that as captain, Piett was XO on the Executor and we never saw his replacement on screen.
 
Maybe Thrawn doesn't have a captain under him in this continuity
This has nothing to do with continuity, this is just how the navy works. Thrawn commands the fleet, some other officer commands the ship. That's basically a necessity, Thrawn needs to be freed up for bigger picture stuff involving the fleet, Chimaera's captain can worry about the day-to-day operations of the ship.
IIRC Admiral Piett was the commanding officer of the Executor. I don't recall him having a captain under him.
Same principal, Vader commanded the fleet, Piett was in command of the Executor.
 
Or the Chimera seen here is an earlier one, as it is a Mark I Imperial-class Star Destoryer, while the later one normally thought of was a Mark II Imperial-class Star Destroyer.
 
I used to think earlier in the season that Kallus was going to serve the role of Thrawn's creepy bodyguard in the novels, but now I'm not so sure. Given that Thrawn knows Kallus is a traitor, Thrawn most certainly isn't going to lower his guard around him.
I only meant in the general sense that neither of them are likely to make it out of the finale alive and Kallus may end up exchanging his life for Thrawn's. Under what circumstances that could happen is yet to be seen.

Fictional navy. Not Real world navy.
It's still a valid comparison since it's not something born of tradition but out of practicality. An Admiral commands a whole fleet and they can't do that effectively if they're Captaining their flagship at the same time.

That's not to say that the Admiral isn't in charge of their own flagship, they are and will give orders to their Captain like any other. It's just that the specifics for running the ship are for the most part delegated to the Captain.
It's the same reason the Captain doesn't generally take the helm, operate the targeting computers, steer the tractor beams or maintain the reactor systems. That's what the crew is for.
 
It's still a valid comparison since it's not something born of tradition but out of practicality. An Admiral commands a whole fleet and they can't do that effectively if they're Captaining their flagship at the same time.

Yeah, but if Star Wars were a universe governed by practicality, Stormtroopers' armor would actually protect them against lasers and Ewok arrows. Armored vehicles would have treads instead of long spindly walker legs that are easy to trip up. And so on. Just because something makes sense, that doesn't mean it'll apply in a fantasy universe.

Heck, even the moderately more plausible Star Trek has gotten all sorts of things wrong about military organization and chain of command. Captain Picard commanded a whole fleet in "Redemption, Part II," but he was also still the captain of the Enterprise. I think we saw the same with Defiant commanders during the Dominion War in DS9. Rank-and-file viewers aren't military experts, and they could get confused by the difference between commanding a ship and commanding a fleet. So it's simpler to have the same character doing both, and it also means you don't have to hire another actor.
 
Yeah, but if Star Wars were a universe governed by practicality, Stormtroopers' armor would actually protect them against lasers and Ewok arrows. Armored vehicles would have treads instead of long spindly walker legs that are easy to trip up. And so on. Just because something makes sense, that doesn't mean it'll apply in a fantasy universe.

Heck, even the moderately more plausible Star Trek has gotten all sorts of things wrong about military organization and chain of command. Captain Picard commanded a whole fleet in "Redemption, Part II," but he was also still the captain of the Enterprise. I think we saw the same with Defiant commanders during the Dominion War in DS9. Rank-and-file viewers aren't military experts, and they could get confused by the difference between commanding a ship and commanding a fleet. So it's simpler to have the same character doing both, and it also means you don't have to hire another actor.

Some people need swear jars. You my friend need a pedanticism jar. At the rate you go, you could put a small village's worth of kids through university inside of a year.
You also need to read up on grammar since you appear to have a blind spot for qualifiers.

Try to remember that all this comes from @The Wormhole suggesting that maybe Pellaeon could potentially show up as a possible Captain of the Chimera. That's all.
 
A fictional version that shows admirals and captains having different tasks is Legend of the Galactic Heroes. There is even a few times were an Admiral in the show has given an order for his ship to do something just a bit too outrageous, and the ship's captain tell them off (sometimes respectfully). The Admirals usual apologies, realizing they were overstepping their bounds. Ordering the fleet to do something is one, thing. Directly ordering his flagship to move is another. He may ask the captain to do something. He may order the captain to do something. But he cannot order the helmsman to change course or the gunners to change targets. He has to go through the captain.
 
Jim Cummings once said "If you can do a spot of impression of someone nobody knows then you have a character. If you can do a terrible impression of someone everyone knows then you have a character!"

I recognized immediately that AP-5 was meant to be Alan Rickman. But for some reason I didn't make the Marvin connection until this week. And apparently the same was true for many of us. I wonder why that was? (I think Stanton does a pretty good Rickman.)

I wonder what Yularen thinks of Darth Vader? For that matter, does even Tarkin know who Vader is? Why is this such a closely guarded secret?

Also, even if Palpatine has declared himself Emperor with public consent and declared the Jedi Knights to be the scourge of the Empire, does the public think Sith are a good thing now? Because Vader being Sith seems to be not a secret even if Palpatine being Sith is.
 
I wonder what Yularen thinks of Darth Vader? For that matter, does even Tarkin know who Vader is? Why is this such a closely guarded secret?

Tarkin figured it out on his own, but so far as I recall never broached the subject to confirm it and with good reason. Vader may have sensed his recognition, but similarly, did not communicate this.

As for Yularen: he's seen Jedi and Sith before (or rather thinks he has: Ventress was never actually a Sith.) So I imagine he's wise enough to respect Vader's abilities and loyal enough to the Emperor to respect Vader's authority, even if he doesn't necessarily trust his motives.
Remember that to people such as himself, there's very little difference between a Jedi and a Sith. Indeed, the most troublesome Sith Lord he knows about was Dooku: a former Jedi Master. The Jedi themselves turned out to be deceitful traitors who tried to take over the galaxy, so the distinction may be largely academic in his eyes.

Also, even if Palpatine has declared himself Emperor with public consent and declared the Jedi Knights to be the scourge of the Empire, does the public think Sith are a good thing now? Because Vader being Sith seems to be not a secret even if Palpatine being Sith is.
That the Emperor is a Sith is indeed still a closely guarded secret. As for Vader: he's a loyal servant of the Emperor, which should be sufficient for most obedient Imperials that cross his path. Only the likes of Motti are bold and foolish enough to be openly scornful of the superstitious old sorcerer.

As for why the Emperor maintains the facade: first and foremost information is power and a wise Sith doesn't allow a potential enemy even the slightest scrap of power over him if he can possibly avoid it.

Another possible factor is that the basis of his popularity is that of the venerable and incorruptible statesman who gallantly stood against the greedy commerce guilds and the treacherous Jedi fanatics. While a great many in the galaxy probably couldn't care less about his religious beliefs, just as many probably remember enough of the Sith to at least associate them with the Jedi and the idea that he's another one of those crazy wizards makes that image harder to maintain.

He doesn't actually care about running or ruling the Empire, nor about the people in it. It's just a means to his own ends.
 
Apparently, aside from the Holy Grail, Thrawn also has the "trail by stone" ritual stone from the Dark Crystal in his collection of art.
 
Apparently, aside from the Holy Grail, Thrawn also has the "trail by stone" ritual stone from the Dark Crystal in his collection of art.
I feel like I've seen that mounted green crystal thing before somewhere too, but I can't quite place it. I actually did think about 'Dark Crystal' and thought it might be something from Aughra's observatory. It would be appropriate in a roundabout way considering Frank Oz puppeteered her and it's placed opposite from what looks like Gree's helmet...but I'm far from certain.
 
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and it's placed opposite from what looks like Gree's helmet...but I'm far from certain.

It is based on Gree's, they mentioned that in the Rebels Recon episode.

They didn't say if it was his or not.

That the Emperor is a Sith is indeed still a closely guarded secret.

Indeed, he also uses propaganda to hide what he looks like, in one episode they show a picture of him from Clone Wars Era in a news report.
 
Here's the concept art for the various artefacts: -
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The holy grail is obvious.
One of those obelisks certainly looks a lot like a Sith holocron, but it's probably just a reproduction. Not sure about the other one.
I assume that horn is from a creature we've seen somewhere before.
That bronze contraption certainly looks like it's meant to be something specific, but I can't place it.
No clue what that thing is in the top left. Some kind of mineral sample perhaps?
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Yeah, that "chipped ritual stone" is almost certainly from Dark Crystal.
The "decorative obelisk" seems to have a similar design style as the Chimera's paint job.
The "Gem Stand" is still a mystery, though I'm still sure I've seen it somewhere.
The Ello bust is obviously an Abednedo.
Don't think the "animal bowl" is anything in particular but the design of the "sacred pipes" looks too specific not to be a reference to something. The clue is in the name perhaps?
 
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