Star Wars Rebels Season One (spoilers)
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Well didn't they say back in episode I or II that the Jedi Order had roughly 9,000 members spread across the galaxy with an additional 200 on Coruscant for emergency missions?
Certainly not in the films - and any reference in the EU has been wiped away in terms of the current canon.
I think there is a mention in TCW somewhere of there being something like 10,000 Jedi in the galaxy. Not sure if that's before the outbreak of the Clone Wars or later when their numbers have been drastically thinned. Probably the former.
Regardless, I think it's more likely that Kanan was away from the temple, either on some solo mission (as Ahsoka occasionally was) or with his master. It's even possible they lucked out and weren't with any clone forces when Order-66 went out. It's not like *every* Jedi was with a clone squad at all times. We often saw them travel alone even during the war.
It seems to me half the point of Order 66 was to guarantee that the vast majority of the Jedi's strongest members were taken out simultaneously as those were the ones most likely to be either commanding troops in the field or back at the temple in convalescence. There were always goring to be stragglers and Palpatine probably counted on most of them being young padawans that could be easily run to ground or turned.
Indeed, I wouldn't be surprised if the Inquisitor turns out to be such a one. A dark reflection of what Kanan could have been or might still become.
Regardless, I think it's more likely that Kanan was away from the temple, either on some solo mission (as Ahsoka occasionally was) or with his master. It's even possible they lucked out and weren't with any clone forces when Order-66 went out. It's not like *every* Jedi was with a clone squad at all times. We often saw them travel alone even during the war.
It seems to me half the point of Order 66 was to guarantee that the vast majority of the Jedi's strongest members were taken out simultaneously as those were the ones most likely to be either commanding troops in the field or back at the temple in convalescence. There were always goring to be stragglers and Palpatine probably counted on most of them being young padawans that could be easily run to ground or turned.
Indeed, I wouldn't be surprised if the Inquisitor turns out to be such a one. A dark reflection of what Kanan could have been or might still become.
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6.5 million people watched the Rebels pilot!
6.5 million people watched the Rebels pilot!
any place I can stream it? Thanks!
I think his shipmates were aware that he was a Jedi. Hera saw the open Holocron and said Ezra "passed the test", showing knowledge of what a Holocron was and how it was opened. Perhaps it's just Hera, but it seems like on a ship that small with the various ops going on, they'd have seen something somewhere. It's a team that trusts each other, so while Kanan isn't going to be showy with it, I think it's not something completely in the dark.
(Plus I think at the end of A New Dawn, the first meeting of Hera and Kanan, he has to reveal his Jedi abilities at a time where she sees them.)
I took something else entirely away from their lack of concern about the TIE fighters. It felt to me that this team had run into fighters enough times that it wasn't an intensely scary thing for them, just a task they were well equipped for. While Han says in A New Hope that he's outrun Imperials, but he never said anything about fighting them. Even if he has, he's with a crew he knows basically nothing about save Chewie. It's not surprising that was a little more fraught with danger than folks that deal with it regularly.
I've only gotten to see it once (the kids have seen it twice already and loved it, which I guess is one of the major objectives) but I enjoyed it quite a bit. It wasn't perfect (those Wookies--man, that was a weird look) but I'm really excited to see how they can follow the same folks every week in a Star Wars universe.
Yeah rewatching the episode, it seemed to me the people in the back were simply trusting that Hera would be able to outmaneuver the TIE Fighters and all they could really do is just wait it out. And that this was something they were pretty accustomed to.
Anyway, apparently the latest is that Vader will be showing up on Rebels a lot sooner than we thought, in a scene inserted into the premiere episode when it airs on ABC. Which seems a bit odd. I'd rather they just wait and introduce him in a future episode myself.
Anyway, apparently the latest is that Vader will be showing up on Rebels a lot sooner than we thought, in a scene inserted into the premiere episode when it airs on ABC. Which seems a bit odd. I'd rather they just wait and introduce him in a future episode myself.
Well, certainly they could introduce Vader later but I find it confusing. I'd rather see his influence early on, then revisited sparingly. Establishing his role in this series is helpful, as a Star Wars fan and a fan of Vader in particular.
One wonders where the scene will be, maybe it continues directly after the ending? I found the pacing a bit odd that the Inquisitor looks up, silently via hologram and then the premiere ends.
If Vader has tasked The Inquisitor (and likely others) with hunting down the last few remaining Jedi, Callus would warn him right away about seeing anyone with a lightsaber. My guess: the scene continues with The Inquisitor calling on Vader to report another Jedi... at this point in the timeline Jedi must be few and far between.
I like this tweet yesterday from NYT's Brooks Barnes: "Will James Earl Jones voice? “By order of the Empire, I decline to comment,” a Disney spokeswoman says. #starwarsrebels @starwars"
Does anyone wonder how often Kanan whips out his swiss army lightsaber? Not often, I'd expect, as no one recognized him as one.
iTunes users rejoice, episode #3 (not #2), Droids in Distress is available for free today:
http://theforce.net/story/front/Droids_In_Distress_Is_Free_On_iTunes_160172.asp
https://itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/star-wars-rebels-vol.-1/id920938545
One wonders where the scene will be, maybe it continues directly after the ending? I found the pacing a bit odd that the Inquisitor looks up, silently via hologram and then the premiere ends.
If Vader has tasked The Inquisitor (and likely others) with hunting down the last few remaining Jedi, Callus would warn him right away about seeing anyone with a lightsaber. My guess: the scene continues with The Inquisitor calling on Vader to report another Jedi... at this point in the timeline Jedi must be few and far between.
I like this tweet yesterday from NYT's Brooks Barnes: "Will James Earl Jones voice? “By order of the Empire, I decline to comment,” a Disney spokeswoman says. #starwarsrebels @starwars"
Does anyone wonder how often Kanan whips out his swiss army lightsaber? Not often, I'd expect, as no one recognized him as one.
iTunes users rejoice, episode #3 (not #2), Droids in Distress is available for free today:
http://theforce.net/story/front/Droids_In_Distress_Is_Free_On_iTunes_160172.asp
https://itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/star-wars-rebels-vol.-1/id920938545
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I don't think he uses it very often. In the "Droids in Distress" episode, I don't think he even touches it.
If anybody is interested, I wrote up a review of the series premiere, which sums up pretty much everything I had to say about the series:
http://echenry.com/review-star-wars-rebels-spark-of-rebellion/
I realize now that I forgot to include something I DID appreciate: Ethnically ambiguous characters.
Ezra, Sabine, and Kanan all seemed at least somewhat non-white. Particularly Ezra, who looks middle-eastern to me (despite blue eyes), and Sabine, who has a slight Asian vibe.
By the end of A New Dawn, Hera knows he was a Jedi, but I don't know about the others.
I'd call it much more than slight in Sabine's case -- she looks unambiguously Asian (or whatever Galaxy-Far-Far-Away origin would correspond to it). Her skin tone is more golden than the other humans', and she has brown eyes with epicanthic folds. And she's voiced by an actress of Indian descent.
I definitely agree about Ezra, as I mentioned before. Kanan's a little more ambiguous, since he also has blue eyes, but his look does suggest something like a Latin or Mediterranean origin (and his voice actor is a quarter Latino). So that would mean that of the four human main characters, only one, the villain Kallus, is clearly white -- and he's played by a black actor. So I agree, it's a refreshingly diverse bunch.
Same here. It'll change to the correct listing in the next few days; the Disney channels seem to reluctantly update their schedules for certain cable providers.
Ok I admit with a title like "Droids in Distress" I wasn't expecting much, but wow, the second episode is actually a huge improvement over the premiere. The tone is a bit more adult, Ezra is far less annoying, and the storytelling feels much less rushed and develops in a much more natural way. And the characters feel a bit more fleshed out as well, particularly Zeb, who comes across far more complex and less cartoonish here (thanks to the bit of history we learn about him).
In fact watching how the crew works together in this episode, I couldn't help but be reminded of the crew from Firefly. It almost has that same kind of feel.
And even though the Stormtroopers are as ineffectual as ever, the Empire as a whole managed to feel a bit more dangerous in this episode as well, thanks to a more intimidating Kallus and the sight of those badass chicken walkers (which I just never get tired of seeing in action).
So yeah, I might have been on the fence before, but I'm now fully on board with this show and these characters, and can't wait to see what happens next with them.
In fact watching how the crew works together in this episode, I couldn't help but be reminded of the crew from Firefly. It almost has that same kind of feel.
And even though the Stormtroopers are as ineffectual as ever, the Empire as a whole managed to feel a bit more dangerous in this episode as well, thanks to a more intimidating Kallus and the sight of those badass chicken walkers (which I just never get tired of seeing in action).
So yeah, I might have been on the fence before, but I'm now fully on board with this show and these characters, and can't wait to see what happens next with them.
It was certainly an improvement. I think what really hurt the premier was that it felt like a 90 minute movie compressed down into 40 minutes and cut in half.
The animation is still a little over-exaggerated and cartoony for my taste. There was something to be said for TCW's economy of movement. Action sequences and dramatics scenes in general tend to have less impact if characters are always flopping about the place, even in the relatively quiet scenes.
P.S. I've never been to Disneyland, but am I right in that the shuttle and the pilot droid in this episode are from the Star Tours ride? Also, yes before anyone points it out, I did notice the 3PO concept art droid too.
The animation is still a little over-exaggerated and cartoony for my taste. There was something to be said for TCW's economy of movement. Action sequences and dramatics scenes in general tend to have less impact if characters are always flopping about the place, even in the relatively quiet scenes.
P.S. I've never been to Disneyland, but am I right in that the shuttle and the pilot droid in this episode are from the Star Tours ride? Also, yes before anyone points it out, I did notice the 3PO concept art droid too.
Yeah it definitely did look and sound like the Star Tours droid, which was a nice touch. And I was hoping there would have been more done with the Concept 3PO droid, but apparently he was only meant to be a background character.
And the character do move in a more exaggerated Disney way, but it doesn't bother me that much. And it somehow seems kinda fitting for a group of colorful, swashbuckling characters like this, I think.
And the character do move in a more exaggerated Disney way, but it doesn't bother me that much. And it somehow seems kinda fitting for a group of colorful, swashbuckling characters like this, I think.
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