Star Trek's Troubling 50th Anniversary
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Haven't Pope'd him yet, but...Can't wait for King Daniel's new Pegg/Pope 'shopped avatar
Things you don't want to see how they are made:
1) Sausages
2) Legislation
3) Star Trek films
1) Sausages
2) Legislation
3) Star Trek films
Haven't Pope'd him yet, but...Can't wait for King Daniel's new Pegg/Pope 'shopped avatar
I wonder if Pine and Quinto are on top of this and have sent Pegg a note yet reminding him of Scotty's "place" in the hierarchy.
Meh. The muck is where the fun is!
This. There is so much alarmist BS being put out there who would rather see the franchise die than become "impure." I pretty much don't believe any speculations at this point, having seen how sloppy the journalism is about this.
I agree. But the most difficult for Pegg will be balance the direction in which JJ redbourn the franchise as well as drawing on its rich universe. Question here is whether or not we've gone too far down the path to reboot start fixing any of the issues fans might well have.
Oh, god, yes. When I was working on the novelizations for THE DARK KNIGHT RISES and MAN OF STEEL, I was constantly biting my tongue as the internet erupted over the latest ridiculous "rumor" which I knew was utter bullshit. The degree to which the internet blurs the distinction between idle speculation, rumor, and fact can be positively terrifying sometimes . . . .
We'll probably end up with a film where everyone is chasing an Iconian artifact of incredible power. First it'll get picked up by Harry Mudd, who gets captured by the Klingons then the Romulans will ambush the Klingons then Kirk will sneak aboard the lead Romulan ship (with Kirk in full Romulan makeup) to steal the artifact while Spock woo's the female Romulan commander. At the end, they'll dump the artifact into the sun.
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Pretty much just the plot to Guardians of the Galaxy with some nods to "The Enterprise Incident" mixed in.
Exactly. Go back and read about some of the behind-the-scenes wranglings on The Wrath of Khan. Shatner hated the first draft of Meyer's script, thinking that it made Kirk look bad. Nimoy had to be cajoled into returning with the promise of a juicy death scene. Roddenberry clashed with Meyer. There were budget issues and a tight schedule . . . .
Now imagine if all of that was being picked apart daily on the internet. It's not hard to make any movie sound like a "troubled" production.
Geoffrey Rush has a great speech in Shakespeare in Love where he explains that it's a minor miracle that any theatrical production actually makes it to the stage, given all the obstacles and personalities involved, let alone that any production turns out to be a success in the end.
And yet, against all odds, it happens all the time.
Thanks.
Pretty much just the plot to Guardians of the Galaxy with some nods to "The Enterprise Incident" mixed in.
You forgot the part where the artefact turns Pine and Quinto into Shatner and Nimoy, but otherwise, full props.
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Pretty much just the plot to Guardians of the Galaxy with some nods to "The Enterprise Incident" mixed in.
For what it's worth, I think that could be a hell of a story. I realize it's pulled from a number of sources, but aren't most stories?
Just ask Mike Rowe
TWOK still staggers my mind when I read Shatner's, Nimoy's and Meyer's accounts of it. Meyer risked getting fired by doing uncredited rewrites and pulling together 8 different drafts. Until I here about the next film facing that I'm not at all worried.
Personally (and this is a bit of a rant-fair warning), I missed the furor over 09 here, and didn't participate on this board until after ID. But, what frustrates me is the attitude that this new Trek must fail in order for Trek to succeed. I'm not calling anyone out here, but the simple fact is, that if this next film fails (and even if it is a success) there might not be a Trek movie for a long time. And that isn't just bad for me because I like Trek. That means that my friends in the film industry don't get work. That other people might not get work. It means that a lot of stuff kind of just stops and idles in the same place.
I like Trek, but I certainly enjoy the fact that more and more people are contributing to this world. If that makes me "anti-Trek" then I can live with that.
I think the article's comparison with James Bond and Doctor Who is telling. We could add Star Wars to the mix. All these franchises are mainstream icons (Doctor mostly limited to UK, obviously). Star Trek has become a niche product since the hey days of the 1980s. Recently, a lot of younger people (key market for any sf franchise) had no awareness of Trek. The Abrams movies have raised Trek to the "huh, it's okay" level of public consciousness. If we want more Trek movies or TV in the near future, the next movie will have to move things up a level.
There is good will toward the new iteration, but the next movie has to succeed without being an origin story or a rehash of an old plot. The new film needs: an interesting problem, an intriguing antagonist, faithfulness to the characters, and nothing that will undermine the premise e.g. Khan immortality serum, or beaming to anywhere in the universe. It also need good dialog, good music, and solid directing. Sounds easy, right?
There is good will toward the new iteration, but the next movie has to succeed without being an origin story or a rehash of an old plot. The new film needs: an interesting problem, an intriguing antagonist, faithfulness to the characters, and nothing that will undermine the premise e.g. Khan immortality serum, or beaming to anywhere in the universe. It also need good dialog, good music, and solid directing. Sounds easy, right?
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