Star Trek's Troubling 50th Anniversary

[Maurice]

^^^Candidate for a page 1 rewrite.

I don't see how what you said there disagrees with what I wrote. Writing a feature length script is hard.

What you're saying is basically the old Hollywood axiom of, "Every movie is written three times: once for the page, once on the stage, and once in editing."

 

[SPCTRE]

Can't wait for King Daniel's new Pegg/Pope 'shopped avatar

 

[Danlav05]

I worry about how the screen writers keeps changing and changing with only 3 months to go. this does not look good.

I sense trouble at t'mill. A director fired and a script tossed and replaced.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I worry about how the screen writers keeps changing and changing with only 3 months to go. this does not look good.

I sense trouble at t'mill. A director fired and a script tossed and replaced.

But enough about Ant-Man.

 

[drt]

To be fair to Orci, he was never actually hired to direct.

 

[Dales]

To be fair to Orci, he was never actually hired to direct.

orci almost directed, paramount would have given him the job if they were happy with his script. for months we already accepted orci was the director until that was changed

 

[BigJake]

To be fair to Orci, he was never actually hired to direct.

No? Then what was with the raft of news stories about him being hired to direct? That would be a very odd thing for Paramount to allow to happen without correction if they had not in fact hired him to direct.

 

[Greg Cox]

Again, it's worth noting that these sort of changes, at this stage of production, are not unusual or alarming. Look at Dawn of the Planet of the Apes. Rupert Wyatt was slated to direct that movie, but was replaced by Matt Reeves before filming began. And the movie turned out great.

Heck, Robert Florey was originally announced as the director of Frankenstein back in 1930, but was replaced by James Whale before shooting began. And Gone with the Wind went through at least three directors. Ditto for the classic 1939 version of The Wizard of Oz.

So this sort of thing has been going on since the Golden Age of Hollywood. It's nothing to lose sleep over.

 

[BigJake]

Again, it's worth noting that these sort of changes, at this stage of production, are not unusual or alarming.

Better now than in the midst of filming, obviously.

 

[Greg Cox]

The point being that the internet tends to be overly alarmist sometimes. "Ohmigod, they've replaced the director! They're reworking the script! Nobody knows what they're doing! It's going to be a disaster!" Whereas, more often than not, this is just the usual growing pains associated with a large production. Standard operating procedure.

A bit of perspective helps to settle the nerves.

 

[Nerys Myk]

A bit of perspective helps to settle the nerves.

Hahahaha, you must be new to the internet.

 

[Greg Cox]

A bit of perspective helps to settle the nerves.

Hahahaha, you must be new to the internet.

Think of me as Don Quixote, tilting against windmills . . .

 

[thumbtack]

I worry about how the screen writers keeps changing and changing with only 3 months to go. this does not look good.

I sense trouble at t'mill. A director fired and a script tossed and replaced.

But enough about Ant-Man.

Or the Boba Fett movie.

 

[Greg Cox]

I sense trouble at t'mill. A director fired and a script tossed and replaced.

But enough about Ant-Man.

Or the Boba Fett movie.

And, honestly, "a director fired" seems a bit overly dramatic. Yes, there were apparently plans at one point to have Orci direct, but, for whatever reasons, that didn't happen. Which, again, is not that unusual in the early stages of a project, when everything is still coming together.

Now if they fired the director well into filming, and shut down production for weeks while they regrouped, that might well indicate some behind-the-scenes turmoil, but this is early days.

Heck, Voyager replaced its star at the last minute, after filming had already begun, and so did Back to the Future for that matter.

 

[fireproof78]

But enough about Ant-Man.

Or the Boba Fett movie.

And, honestly, "a director fired" seems a bit overly dramatic. Yes, there were apparently plans at one point to have Orci direct, but, for whatever reasons, that didn't happen. Which, again, is not that unusual in the early stages of a project, when everything is still coming together.

Now if they fired the director well into filming, and shut down production for weeks while they regrouped, that might well indicate some behind-the-scenes turmoil, but this is early days.

Heck, Voyager replaced its star at the last minute, after filming had already begun, and so did Back to the Future for that matter.

So did Lord of the Rings with Viggo Mortenson. He received a call, and was on a plane to New Zealand the next day.

 

[M'Sharak]

A bit of perspective helps to settle the nerves.

Hahahaha, you must be new to the internet.

Think of me as Don Quixote, tilting against windmills . . .

.

 

[Lance]

The point being that the internet tends to be overly alarmist sometimes. "Ohmigod, they've replaced the director! They're reworking the script! Nobody knows what they're doing! It's going to be a disaster!" Whereas, more often than not, this is just the usual growing pains associated with a large production. Standard operating procedure.

A bit of perspective helps to settle the nerves.

I've noticed this to be true about many things on the internet. Now that we've all got social media, it's like stuff that once wouldn't have amounted to a pocket full of beans can now quickly (and uncontrollably) spiral out-of-context, as layer upon layer of urban legend gets added in a matter of mere hours.

If the internet had've been around in 1982, the 'panic' over the removal of Roddenberry and the death of Spock might've become a full scale media nightmare.

 

[Greg Cox]

The point being that the internet tends to be overly alarmist sometimes. "Ohmigod, they've replaced the director! They're reworking the script! Nobody knows what they're doing! It's going to be a disaster!" Whereas, more often than not, this is just the usual growing pains associated with a large production. Standard operating procedure.

A bit of perspective helps to settle the nerves.

I've noticed this to be true about many things on the internet. Now that we've all got social media, it's like stuff that once wouldn't have amounted to a pocket full of beans can now quickly (and uncontrollably) spiral out-of-context, as layer upon layer of urban legend gets added in a matter of mere hours.

If the internet had've been around in 1982, the 'panic' over the removal of Roddenberry and the death of Spock might've become a full scale media nightmare.

Exactly. At the risk of channeling my inner curmudgeon, we didn't used to expect total transparency and daily updates on a movie that wasn't coming out for years. So a lot of this behind-the-scenes stuff stayed comfortably behind the scenes--and people weren't able to build vast edifices of speculation and rumor on every dubious new scrap of information.

"Ohmigod, have you seen the preliminary sketches for the action figures! This movie is going to be a total flop!"

(Believe it or not, I'm not joking with that last one. I actually saw a post almost exactly like that several months before MAN OF STEEL opened.)

These days people get indignant if they don't know everything there is to know about a movie at least a year before it opens!

 

[Amaris]

J.J. owes me details on everything nownownow!

 

[BigJake]

Exactly. At the risk of channeling my inner curmudgeon, we didn't used to expect total transparency and daily updates on a movie that wasn't coming out for years. So a lot of this behind-the-scenes stuff stayed comfortably behind the scenes--and people weren't able to build vast edifices of speculation and rumor on every dubious new scrap of information.

Ah, those were dark days.

It's much better now when Simon Pegg can sneeze and we can speculate on whether he meant to insult the fans.