I can't wait to get mine. I also picked up the score for the '89 batman, Krull, and Tango and Cash with it, so I'm very excited.
Star Trek V expanded score 11/30!!
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The STV Expanded Soundtrack is on my Christmas Wish List. 
Just got the expanded score today and have been listening. It's AMAZING! Truly one of Goldsmith's best.
While not as "epic" or moody as his TMP score or as bombastic as some of his non Trek work, there are some real gems in here -- stuff that you just can't hear in the film mix.
In fact the first track is a cue for Nimbus III that was deleted from the film. Another find is that he used his original TMP theme for the recycled ILM shot of the Enterprise in spacedock (the music where Scotty & Uhura talk is surprisingly really layered and thought out as well)
There's just a lot of fantastic Goldsmith work in here -- simple things that are great orchestrations. Really happy to have this after all these years!
While not as "epic" or moody as his TMP score or as bombastic as some of his non Trek work, there are some real gems in here -- stuff that you just can't hear in the film mix.
In fact the first track is a cue for Nimbus III that was deleted from the film. Another find is that he used his original TMP theme for the recycled ILM shot of the Enterprise in spacedock (the music where Scotty & Uhura talk is surprisingly really layered and thought out as well)
There's just a lot of fantastic Goldsmith work in here -- simple things that are great orchestrations. Really happy to have this after all these years!
That ascending line McCarthy re-used in "Generations", in the "The Final Fight" as I recall.
Yeah, it originated in ST V. I, conversely, was kind of surprised that he recycled it in his TNG scores (I assume you're talking about the four-note melody that's used in, for instance, "A Busy Man" when the shuttle is descending toward the planet.)
The bucolic Ba'ku theme that opens INS is somewhat different from Goldsmith's music for the "cosmic thoughts" scene. The Trek V motif you are talking about is called the 'Americana' theme and is a variation on the opening music when Kirk climbs El Capitan. I think it's one of the best pieces on the CD - the underscore for when Kirk says "Maybe God's not out there... maybe he's in here"
The Americana motif is used to good effect in several places in the Trek V score. To me, this theme sounds closes to the First Contact main title.
Believe it or not there are several distinct motifs that Goldsmith uses for Trek V aside from the familiar main theme and the Klingon theme :
The "quest" motif -- it's that 4 note statement that people have talked about. It's all over the film and put to full effect when Kirk is running away from the God creature. It was later used a lot in TNG films (mistakenly in my opinion, since it fits in so well with the tone here)
Sybok's theme - an electronic, harmonic short cue that's put through various orchestrations.
The "Americana" theme I talked about.
A Busy Man - the orchestral, flowing cue used for the discovery of the God Planet.
The soundtrack features a few instances of a surging electronic "mind meld" cue that was supposed to be used in the film when Sybok "converts" someone. It was taken out and replaced with the heartbeat sound fx.
The "discovery" theme is used during the opening scene when Sybok says "the power was within you...". It's classic Goldsmith chords and plays out fully during the Observation Room scene where Kirk confronts Sybok. This theme is similar to some of his work for TMP -- specifically the Spock/V'ger moments.
All in all a surprisingly, very rich score.
I'm looking forward to its arrival. I haven't gotten the expanded Horner scores yet -- I'm not enough of a fan of his work to consider them indispensable -- but this is one of my favorite Goldsmith scores and it looks like the new set effectively doubles the amount of content. Plus I only have the ST V score on vinyl and cassette.
I also ordered a Lost in Space 2-disc set that's going cheap for $4.95. I have a couple of LiS discs already, the GNP Crescendo Vols. 1 & 3 collecting most of the first-season scores, so there's some repetition, but this set has additional cues from those episodes and assorted music from later seasons, and it's cheap, so I figured I'd go for it.
I also ordered a Lost in Space 2-disc set that's going cheap for $4.95. I have a couple of LiS discs already, the GNP Crescendo Vols. 1 & 3 collecting most of the first-season scores, so there's some repetition, but this set has additional cues from those episodes and assorted music from later seasons, and it's cheap, so I figured I'd go for it.
In the "The Music of Star Trek" book by Jeff Bond they bring mention to that four note theme, but it was identified in there as the "friendship" theme, which was why Goldsmith carried it over into the TNG films, I believe.
Just received my copy - 10 days delivery to the UK. Well done La La!
Got mine today as well. Love this score.
Yes, I'm a very happy camper!
Mine is yet to arrive, but I did just receive my "Flash" double CD from them, which I wouldn't have realised was out/still available had to not been for this thread. So thanks to the OP!
I wonder if someone could answer a question reference "The Moon's A Window To Heaven (Film Version)" included on disc 2? The liner notes are somewhat vague - stating Nichelle Nichols recorded her own vocal. However, upon listening, I'm 99.99% certain it isn't NN actually singing, and is almost certainly the vocalist from smooth jazz/fusion group Hiroshima who recorded the "original" light funk/rock version - also included on disc 2.
I seem to remember reading an article back in the day stating NN was a little resentful her vocal wasn't used in the movie. Can someone confirm? And if so, does anyone have a name for said vocalist? I've searched extensively, and although there's plenty of info on the band - nothing specific about this issue.
I seem to remember reading an article back in the day stating NN was a little resentful her vocal wasn't used in the movie. Can someone confirm? And if so, does anyone have a name for said vocalist? I've searched extensively, and although there's plenty of info on the band - nothing specific about this issue.
I recall Nichelle saying that as well. I'm not 100% but I think the cue on the CD IS Nichelle's version but the version they used in the actual film is the girl from Hiroshima singing. I could be wrong because their voices do sound similar.
On a side note I'm addicted to that synth version of the track that was used in the Paradise Saloon. So weird... but so Goldsmith.
Had to share this --
Just a few hours after I posted this I was out shopping at the mall and low and behold run into none other than NICHELLE NICHOLS herself... in the shoe dept of Macys. What are the odds?
I didn't get up the nerve to actually ask her if it was her voice singing The Moon Is A Window To Heaven but I did say hello and mentioned that "we were just talking about her today". Oh, the irony...
Only in LA...
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Yes, I love that track too - I've even inserted it as track #5 in my Final Frontier playlist, after "The Big Drop", which is where it appeared in the film.
Wow - Synchronicity or what! I met her a few years ago at a signing in the UK, an extremely nice lady.
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