That’s not relevant to my point.
And please do not derail this thread any further with off-topic arguing.
This is absolutely your last “friendly” warning.
Moving on.
Star Trek TOS Re-Watch
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That’s not relevant to my point.
And please do not derail this thread any further with off-topic arguing.
This is absolutely your last “friendly” warning.
Moving on.
What they need is a group of Vulcans.
Aside for casting, isn't that Strange New Worlds.
I also give it a 10.
I meant this particular cast back in the '60s, including with the characters of Boyce and Colt. I could take or leave Tyler, he feels more like Burt Ward's Robin. I like Anson Mount, but his portrayal of Pike is vastly different from Jeff Hunter's. I would've liked to have seen more of Hunter's Pike in this "What If?" Scenario.Aside for casting, isn't that Strange New Worlds.
Hmm. I don't think the Vulcans would find captivity logical. I think they'd have taken Number One's stance. What they might've done was find a way to negotiate something with the Talosians.What they need is a group of Vulcans.
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Or the quality of both. The solution to the dilemma was too light for some, after what happened to the yeoman with Sarah Palin's voice. Had BAON maintained the grimness all the way to the end, it'd have to be an HBO production as opposed to the feel-good ending we received.
But younger Vulcans found bullying Spock logical. I always found that particularly sad.
It is sad. But what's even more sad is it is not surprising in the least.
Vulcans have always had that superiority complex and condescending attitude. Especially with non-Vulcans. Spock, being half human, was always going to be a target for bullying by Vulcan children.
Especially children still learning to repress the psycho Vulcan emotion.
"Are there human or are thee Vulcan." T'Pau asks this of Spock in "Amok Time." Sarek is shown saying "so human" as part of Spock's pain.
The judgement was present very heavily so kids acting this way isn't a surprise if adults are modeling this behavior.
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I have seen that behavior in people all my life. People who have that condescending attitude and superiority complex are, unfortunately, easy to find everywhere. (Particularly in certain professions.) And they do their own type of bullying.
I find it illogical for Sarek to marry a human woman, have a son with that human woman, and then expect the son to be the perfect Vulcan.
Maybe baby Spock looked more human, his Vulcan features pronouncing as he matured?
Maybe baby Spock looked more human, his Vulcan features pronouncing as he matured?
Because, at my opinion, they still weren't 100% sure of what they were doing yet in S1 and S3 was... well. S3. I'm not entirely sure what was up with it but it was... bizarre, to say the least.Thank you. Why do some consider S2 "the best one?" There's only 3, and they're all good.
I'm aware, I had that in mind when I said what I said. Literally Spock has been out of the womb for what, a minute? What would Sarek's words possibly be based on if not baby Spock's looks?
I don’t think Sarek actually said those words. It’s Spock’s own inner inadequacies speaking. It’s how he feels Sarek sees him.
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In all honesty, this is very insightful and something I never thought about while watching the movie.
That's always been my interpretation, as well, for the simple reason being no one will be able to remember their actual birth. Not even a Vulcan.
Spock would have you think they could, though. Spock be like that.
Tuvok would just roll his eyes and walk away.
T'Pol would quote the Vulcan Science Academy.
Really worth checking out the Star Trek: Early Voyages comic series that Marvel did in the late 1990's. They've been reprinted and collected a few times, so maybe you could request a copy through interlibrary loan. At some point in the late 2000's a DVD ROM of Star Trek comic PDFs was published as well.
Plus, you could get a head start on what OTOY might be dropping next.
Fate's so twisted.
I'll re-pick up Early Voyages at some point. I bought some issues of Early Voyages when I was in high school but, several years ago, I ended up throwing them out along with most of rest of my comic collection. Only graphic novels survived my cut.
And then -- true to life -- after I threw them out, now I'm interested in checking them out again!
DC Comics also had a few Pike issues during the '80s and '90s. The fourth annual from their second run back in 1993. And then one of the annuals in the '80s.
In the letters column of one of the DC Comics issues of Star Trek in 1993, there's a letter from a very young Lord Garth. I'll never say exactly where for people to find because I don't want to embarrass myself.
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