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I didn't see anything to indicate that Kelso's work was undone, so why not just blow the place? Because then we'd need another captain. :biggrin:

What good would it do to blow the facility after Gary had already fled to the mountains?

I still can't figure out how falling rocks kill Gary when he's nearly Dark Phoenix here.

He was still weak from his fight with Dehnar.

I have never understood why so many think Spock and Mitchell have known each other for years. I suspect people are interpreting that wrong. It’s Kirk and Mitchell who have known each other for years.

I haven't seen it for a while, but didn't Kirk say "You've known him for years!" - or words to that effect - to Spock when trying to argue against killing Gary
 
I always took it that Dehner was referring to Kirk being pressured to condemn someone he’d known for years.
 
So was Gary a part of Pike's crew, and served with Spock? Or did PIke's crew and wherever Kirk/Mitchell were, for Kirk's first command, do a mission together? No, because Kirk didn't meet Pike until he took the Enterprise. So Gary was on the Enterprise with Spock and Pike, before Kirk picked him for his first command? And then brought him with him back to Enterprise? Hrmm. Unless we are to assume that we are starting well into the 3rd or 4th year of the 5 year mission to begin with. That could technically be "years."

I've always been a huge fan of this episode. It always makes me kind of sad, that we didn't get to see a bunch of adventures with Kelso/Mitchell/Kirk. I picture this episode as the grand season finale, of an unseen first year, after sharing a whole season of adventuring with these guys, Dr. Piper, etc. It would make just as impactful a Season 1 finale, as it did a Season 1 pilot. :D Before the guidelines debacle, I always wished a fanfilm outfit would tackle something along these lines. Good stuff.
 
The Autobiography of James T. Kirk covers a lot of the inter-episode material, changes in the ship and uniforms, including WNMHGB. I love the bit where T'Pau insults Kirk during the stay on Vulcan with the Klingon ship.
 
I always took it that Dehner was referring to Kirk being pressured to condemn someone he’d known for years.
It's obvious that they meant to infer that the Enterprise has been on patrol with this particular crew for a couple years at this point in time. They may have decided to change that aspect in episode references going forward oh, but it's pretty clear that was the intent of the line here.

The other aspect of this episode that I find interesting is that it shows that Nicholas Meyer never really watched all of Star Trek closely; because the events in this episode clearly show that Kirk had faced death here, and it contradicts his speech in Star Trek II The Wrath of Khan, where Kirk states he's never really faced death before like this; when in fact he has , because his relationship with Mitchell in this episode is pretty much the same as his relationship with Spock during the events of Star Trek II The Wrath of Khan.
 
The other aspect of this episode that I find interesting is that it shows that Nicholas Meyer never really watched all of Star Trek closely; because the events in this episode clearly show that Kirk had faced death here, and it contradicts his speech in Star Trek II The Wrath of Khan, where Kirk states he's never really faced death before like this; when in fact he has , because his relationship with Mitchell in this episode is pretty much the same as his relationship with Spock during the events of Star Trek II The Wrath of Khan.

Kirk lost Edith Keeler, too. And Miramanee, and their unborn child. And his brother Sam. Meyer was writing his own ideas without feeling any need to be tethered to the TV series.
 
Some of you seem a little uncertain about the chronology, so I guess that once again I should point out the various statements.

In "Menagerie Part 1"

MENDEZ: You ever met Chris Pike?
KIRK: When he was promoted to Fleet Captain.
MENDEZ: About your age. Big, handsome man, vital, active.
KIRK: I took over the Enterprise from him. Spock served with him for several years.
SPOCK: Eleven years, four months, five days.

Four months is about 0.3333 of a year, and a day is about 0.0027376 of a year, so Spock served with Pike for about 11.347 years.

Later in both parts of "Menagerie" there are statements about the time since the incident on Talos IV:

SPOCK: This is thirteen years ago. The Enterprise and its commander, Captain Christopher Pike.

SPOCK: As I stated, gentlemen, this was thirteen years ago. We were on routine patrol when the ship's sensors detected something ahead. At first we were not certain what it was.

"Thirteen years" should be between 13.000 and 13.999 years. If Spock began serving with Pike right before the Talos IV incident, Spock would stop serviving with Pike betweeen 1.653 and 2.652 years earlier. If Spock started serviing with pike X years before the Talos IV incident Spock stopped seving with Pke X plus 1.353 to X plus 2.652 years before "Menagerie".

"The Conscience of the KIng" states that the Tarsus IV massacre happened 20 years earlier. The script says that Kirk was already a midshipman then, but those scenes were not filmed, making it possible for Kirk to have been a young civilian child on Tarsus IV for some reason.

In "Shore Leave":

KIRK: What's the matter, Bones, you getting a persecution complex?
MCCOY: Well, yeah, I'm beginning to feel a little bit picked on, if that's what you mean.
KIRK: I know the feeling very well. I had it at the Academy. An upper classman there. One practical joke after another, and always on me. My own personal devil. A guy by the name of Finnegan.
MCCOY: And you being the very serious young
KIRK: Serious? I'll make a confession, Bones. I was absolutely grim, which delighted Finnegan no end. He's the kind of guy to put a bowl of cold soup in your bed or a bucket of water propped on a half-open door. You never knew where he'd strike next. More tracks. Looks like your rabbit came from over there.

Later Kirks meets Ruth:

KIRK: Ruth? Ruth.
RUTH: Jim, darling, it is me. It is Ruth.
(She kisses him)

Captain's log. Stardate 3025.8. Investigation of this increasingly unusual planet continues, and we are seeing things that cannot possibly exist, yet they are undeniably real.

[Rocky outcrop]

KIRK: (into communicator) McCoy, do you read me? Ruth. Ruth, how can it be you? How could you possibly be here? You haven't aged. It's been fifteen years.

Later:
SPOCK: There is one slight possibility, very slim, but nevertheless. Captain, what were your thoughts just before you encountered the people you described?
KIRK: I was, I was thinking about the Academy. My days
FINNEGAN: Hey, Jim baby! I see you brought out reinforcements. Ha! Well, I'm waiting for you, Jimmy boy.

So Kirk saw both Ruth and Finnigan at the Academy 15 years earlier.

FINNEGAN: Get up. Get up. Get up. Always fight fair, don't you? True officer and gentleman, you. You stupid underclassman. I've got the edge. I'm still twenty years old. Look at you. You're an old man.

KIRK: A lot of things. What's been happening to my people?
FINNEGAN: I never answer questions from plebes, Jimmy boy.
KIRK: I'm not a plebe. This is today, fifteen years later. What are you doing here?

So Kirk was a "plebe" in his first year at the Academy 15 years earlier. So Kirk's 1st year at theAcademy began or ended 15.000 to 15.999 years earlier. And if Kirk had a usual four years at the Academy he would have graduated 4 years after his first year began and 3 years after it ended. So Kirk should have graduated from Starfleet academy and been commissioned an ensign in Starfeet about 9.000 to 12.999 years before "Shore Leave".

Kirk apparently went on a historic deep space mission while an academy cadet, and possibly during his first year there, perhaps separating him from Finnegan. In "Whom Gods Destroy":

KIRK: I agree there was a time when war was necessary, and you were our greatest warrior. I studied your victory at Axanar when I was a cadet. In fact it's still required reading at the Academy.
GARTH: As well it should be.
KIRK: Very well. But my first visit to Axanar was as a new fledged cadet on a peace mission.

Kirk should have met Gary Mitchell for the first time about the same time as Kirk's first year year in Starfleet Academy, depending on the time relationship Between "Where No Man Has Gone Before" and "Shore Leave". Possibly they met while studying at a special school preparing them for entering Starfleet Academy.

In "Where No Man Has Gone Before";

Star date 1313.1. We're now approaching Delta Vega. Course set for a standard orbit. This planet, completely uninhabited, is slightly smaller than Earth. Desolate, but rich in crystal and minerals. Kelso's task, transport down with a repair party, try to regenerate the main engines, save the ship. Our task, transport down a man I've known for fifteen years, and if we're successful, maroon him there.

KIrk does not say that he became a close friend with Gary Mitchell as soon as they met. His words make it possible that they didn't become friends until years after they met. And that is a very important chronological consideration.

So Kirk probably graduated from Starfleet academy and was commissioned an ensign in Starfeet about 9.000 to 12.999 years before "Shore Leave". There is evidence that new ensigns in Starfleet usually remained at the Academy as instructors for some time after graduation, and and also evidence that Kirk did not do so.

Kirk probably ment and became friends with Ben Finney duiring his first year, and Finney and Kirk were probably assigned to the same ship when Kirk graduated from the Academy.

In "Court Martial":

STONE: Let us begin with your relationship with Commander Finney. You knew him for a long time, didn't you?
KIRK: Yes. He was an instructor at the Academy when I was a midshipman, but that didn't stand in the way of our beginning a close friendship. His daughter Jamie, who was here last night, was named after me.
STONE: It's common knowledge that something happened to your friendship.
KIRK: It's no secret. We were assigned to the same ship some years later. I relieved him on watch once and found a circuit open to the atomic matter piles that should've been closed. Another five minutes, it could have blown up the ship.
COMPUTER: Ship nomenclature. Specify.
KIRK: United Starship Republic, number 1371.
STONE: Continue.
KIRK: I closed the switch and logged the incident. He drew a reprimand and was sent to the bottom of the promotion list.
STONE: And he blamed you for that?
KIRK: Yes. He had been at the Academy for an unusually long time as an instructor. As a result, he was late in being assigned to a starship. The delay, he felt, looked bad on his record. My action, he believed, made things worse.

And kirk was an ensign on the Republic when he reported Finney's error.:

SHAW: With reference to Records Officer Finney, was there in his service record a reported disciplinary action for failure to close a circuit?
ENSIGN: Yes, ma'am.
SHAW: Was the charge in that instance based upon a log entry by the officer who relieved him?
ENSIGN: Yes, ma'am.
SHAW: And who was that officer?
ENSIGN: Ensign James T. Kirk.
SHAW: Louder, please, for the court.
ENSIGN: Ensign James T. Kirk.
SHAW: Now the Captain Kirk who sits in this courtroom?
ENSIGN: Yes, ma'am.

SHAW: You have just heard the testimony of your own personnel officer, that it was an action of the then Ensign Kirk, which placed an unerasable blot on the record of the then Lieutenant Finney. Psychologically, Doctor, is it possible that Lieutenant Finney blamed Kirk for the incident?

In "a Private Little War" Kirk had been to Tyree's planet before:

SPOCK: Aside from that, you say it's a Garden of Eden?
KIRK: Or so it seemed to the brash young Lieutenant Kirk on his first planet survey.

KIRK: When I left there thirteen years ago, those villagers had barely learned to forge iron. Spock was shot with a flintlock. How many centuries between those two developments?

So Kirk was a lieutenant "thirteen years" before "A Private little War", and presumably Jamie Finney was born and named sometime before then when Finney was still friendly with Kirk.

In "Obsession" Kirk was a lieutenant on the starship Farragut 11 years earlier:

KIRK: I suggest you look at the record tapes of past similar occurrences. You'll find the USS Farragut lists casualties eleven years ago from exactly the same impossible causes.

MCCOY: Am I? I was speaking of Lieutenant James T. Kirk of the starship Farragut. Eleven years ago, you were the young officer at the phaser station when something attacked. According to the tapes, this young Lieutenant Kirk insisted upon blaming himself.
KIRK: Because I delayed in firing at it.
MCCOY: You had a normal emotion. You were startled. You delayed firing for a grand total of perhaps two seconds.
KIRK: If I hadn't delayed, it would have been killed.
MCCOY: The ship's exec didn't seem to think so. His log entry was quite clear on the subject. Lieutenant Kirk is a fine young officer who performed with uncommon bravery.
KIRK: Don't you understand? It killed two hundred crewmen.
MCCOY: Captain Garrovick was very important to you, wasn't he, Jim?
KIRK: Yes. He was my commanding officer from the day I left the Academy. One of the finest men I ever knew. I could have killed that thing if I'd fired soon enough the first time.

So apparently Captain Garrovik commanded the Republic when Kirk and Finney were on it, and Kirk went with Garrovik when Garrovkik transfered to command of the Farragut.

And it is my deduction that after the Farragut disaster Kirk returned to Starfleet academy and was an instructor there.

And after Kirk taught a class there for at least one year, Gary Mitchell entered the Academy as a plebe, a 1st year student.

In "Where No Man Has Gone Before":

MITCHELL: Well, I'm getting a chance to read some of that longhair stuff you like. Hey man, I remember you back at the Academy. A stack of books with legs. The first thing I ever heard from an upperclassman was, watch out for Lieutenant Kirk. In his class, you either think or sink.
KIRK: I wasn't that bad, was I?
MITCHELL: If I hadn't aimed that little blonde lab technician at you
KIRK: You what? You planned that?
MITCHELL: Well, you wanted me to think, didn't you? I outlined her whole campaign for her.
KIRK: I almost married her!

SPOCK: Our subject is not Gary Mitchell. Our concern is, rather, what he is mutating into.
DEHNER: I know those from your planet aren't suppose to have feelings like we do, Mister Spock, but to talk that way about a man you've worked next to for years is worse than
KIRK: That's enough, Doctor.DEHNER: I don't think so. I understand you least of all. Gary told me that you've been friends since he joined the service, that you asked for him aboard your first command.
KIRK: It is my duty, whether pleasant or unpleasant, to listen to the reports, observations, even speculations, on any subject that might affect the safety of this vessel, and it's my science officer's duty to see I'm provided with that. Go ahead, Mister Spock.

So it is my deduction that Gary Mitchell became a friend of Kirk during Mitchell's first year at Starfleet Academy and Lieutenant Kirk's second year (or later) teaching there, and that could be no more than 10 years before "Obsession" and at least 5 years after they first met in unspecified circumstances.

Later Kirk returned to starship duty in deep space, and gained a reputation as a great commander in some space war or wars, perhaps with Klingons:

GARTH: Upon the firmest of foundations, Mister Spock. Enlightened self interest. You, Captain, are second only to me as the finest military commander in the galaxy.
KIRK: That's very flattering. I am primarily an explorer now, Captain Garth.
GARTH: And so have I been. I have charted more new worlds than any man in history.

So after some years of service in deep space, Kirk was given his first command, presumably a smaller ship than a starship, and requested that Gary serve with him.

DEHNER: I don't think so. I understand you least of all. Gary told me that you've been friends since he joined the service, that you asked for him aboard your first command.

I don't know if Gary was assigned to Krk's first command, but they did serve together for some time previous to "Where No Man Has Gone Before":

MITCHELL: My friend James Kirk. remember those rodent things on Dimorus? The poisoned darts they threw? I took one meant for you.
KIRK: And almost died. I remember.
MITCHELL: So why be afraid of me now?

Gary Mitchell also served with Spock for at least two years, presumably on the Enterprise,. Some of that time might have been when Pike commanded the Enterpise, and at least some of it was after Kirk took command.

Kirk apparently became a starship captain at an unusually young age. I presume that Kirk's career was otherwise a rather normal one, going steadily from promotion to promotion - differing from the normal career path of a starship capatin only inhaving had having unusually rapid promotion.

And that allows gives the simpliest reconstruction of Kirk's career up to TOS.

However, someone could rearrange the orde rof events in their reconstruction of Kirk's career,perhaps having him be promoted, demoted, and then promoted again, making his career progression more complicated and less natural. By doing so they can make events in Kirk's life happen sooner or later than in my reconstruction of his career.

Also see my post number 38 for a couple of other biographical details about Kirk.
 
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...Gary and Kirk were friends at the Academy. Later, Kirk says they've been friends for 15 years. Shatner was 35 when this was done, so it seems like the Academy is instead of college. Are military academies are like that?...

..."Above all else, a God needs compassion." I have always loved this line...

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Kirk's fictional age at the time is stated in "The Deadly Years":

SPOCK: Medical banks, compute described subject's physical age, using established norms as comparative base.
COMPUTER: Working. Subject's physical age based on physiological profile, between sixty and seventy two. Aging rapidly.
KIRK: No, I'm thirty four. I'm thirty four years old.

In "Court Martial" Kirk says:

KIRK: I spent my whole life training for decisions just like that one. My whole life. Is it possible that when the moment came? No. I know what I did. You can pull out if you want to.

This implies that Kirk began preparing for starship command even before he entered Starfleet Academy, and so as a teenager or even a child.

In my post number 37 I state my belief that Kirk and Mitchell first met 15 years before "Where No Man Has Gone Before", but did not become friends until some years later.

I do not know about all other countries, but the armed service academies in the USA are the equivalent of four year colleges.

Applicacants have to be at least 17, but under 23, on the day they enter. Most are 18-year-olds who have graduated from hight school (required) at the normal age. A relative of mine joined the summmer encampment at West Point aged 16 and was formally enrolled on his 17th birthday. He was commissioned aged 20 years and about 3 weeks, and survived for 80 years after that.

It is not true that a god needs compassion. What is true is that mortals desperately need gods with compassion.
 
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Thank you! Great work.

I was talking about this today with a friend and we agreed that Shatner has always looked a little younger than his chronological age (and still does now). So I realized this his age and Kirk's aren't necessarily the same.

And yes, mortals desperately need gods with compassion. But we don't always make them that way. :sigh:
 
Some of you seem a little uncertain about the chronology, so I guess that once again I should point out the various statements.

In "Menagerie Part 1"



Four months is about 0.3333 of a year, and a day is about 0.0027376 of a year, so Spock served with Pike for about 11.347 years.

Later in both parts of "Menagerie" there are statements about the time since the incident on Talos IV:





"Thirteen years" should be between 13.000 and 13.999 years. If Spock began serving with Pike right before the Talos IV incident, Spock would stop serviving with Pike betweeen 1.653 and 2.652 years earlier. If Spock started serviing with pike X years before the Talos IV incident Spock stopped seving with Pke X plus 1.353 to X plus 2.652 years before "Menagerie".

"The Conscience of the KIng" states that the Tarsus IV massacre happened 20 years earlier. The script says that Kirk was already a midshipman then, but those scenes were not filmed, making it possible for Kirk to have been a young civilian child on Tarsus IV for some reason.

In "Shore Leave":



Later Kirks meets Ruth:



Later:

So Kirk saw both Ruth and Finnigan at the Academy 15 years earlier.





So Kirk was a "plebe" in his first year at the Academy 15 years earlier. So Kirk's 1st year at theAcademy began or ended 15.000 to 15.999 years earlier. And if Kirk had a usual four years at the Academy he would have graduated 4 years after his first year began and 3 years after it ended. So Kirk should have graduated from Starfleet academy and been commissioned an ensign in Starfeet about 9.000 to 12.999 years before "Shore Leave".

Kirk apparently went on a historic deep space mission while an academy cadet, and possibly during his first year there, perhaps separating him from Finnegan. In "Whom Gods Destroy":



Kirk should have met Gary Mitchell for the first time about the same time as Kirk's first year year in Starfleet Academy, depending on the time relationship Between "Where No Man Has Gone Before" and "Shore Leave". Possibly they met while studying at a special school preparing them for entering Starfleet Academy.

In "Where No Man Has Gone Before";



KIrk does not say that he became a close friend with Gary Mitchell as soon as they met. His words make it possible that they didn't become friends until years after they met. And that is a very important chronological consideration.

So Kirk probably graduated from Starfleet academy and was commissioned an ensign in Starfeet about 9.000 to 12.999 years before "Shore Leave". There is evidence that new ensigns in Starfleet usually remained at the Academy as instructors for some time after graduation, and and also evidence that Kirk did not do so.

Kirk probably ment and became friends with Ben Finney duiring his first year, and Finney and Kirk were probably assigned to the same ship when Kirk graduated from the Academy.

In "Court Martial":



And kirk was an ensign on the Republic when he reported Finney's error.:





In "a Private Little War" Kirk had been to Tyree's planet before:





So Kirk was a lieutenant "thirteen years" before "A Private little War", and presumably Jamie Finney was born and named sometime before then when Finney was still friendly with Kirk.

In "Obsession" Kirk was a lieutenant on the starship Farragut 11 years earlier:





So apparently Captain Garrovik commanded the Republic when Kirk and Finney were on it, and Kirk went with Garrovik when Garrovkik transfered to command of the Farragut.

And it is my deduction that after the Farragut disaster Kirk returned to Starfleet academy and was an instructor there.

And after Kirk taught a class there for at least one year, Gary Mitchell entered the Academy as a plebe, a 1st year student.

In "Where No Man Has Gone Before":





So it is my deduction that Gary Mitchell became a friend of Kirk during Mitchell's first year at Starfleet Academy and Lieutenant Kirk's second year (or later) teaching there, and that could be no more than 10 years before "Obsession" and at least 5 years after they first met in unspecified circumstances.

Later Kirk returned to starship duty in deep space, and gained a reputation as a great commander in some space war or wars, perhaps with Klingons:



So after some years of service in deep space, Kirk was given his first command, presumably a smaller ship than a starship, and requested that Gary serve with him.



I don't know if Gary was assigned to Krk's first command, but they did serve together for some time previous to "Where No Man Has Gone Before":



Gary Mitchell also served with Spock for at least two years, presumably on the Enterprise,. Some of that time might have been when Pike commanded the Enterpise, and at least some of it was after Kirk took command.

Kirk apparently became a starship captain at an unusually young age. I presume that Kirk's career was otherwise a rather normal one, going steadily from promotion to promotion - differing from the normal career path of a starship capatin only inhaving had having unusually rapid promotion.

And that allows gives the simpliest reconstruction of Kirk's career up to TOS.

However, someone could rearrange the orde rof events in their reconstruction of Kirk's career,perhaps having him be promoted, demoted, and then promoted again, making his career progression more complicated and less natural. By doing so they can make events in Kirk's life happen sooner or later than in my reconstruction of his career.

Also see my post number 38 for a couple of other biographical details about Kirk.

You quoted a bunch f stuff - but I guess you forgot chose NOT to remember this Captain's Log entry made BY James T. Kirk in TOS S1 - "Where No Man Has Gone Before": http://www.chakoteya.net/StarTrek/2.htm

James T. Kirk: Star date 1313.1. We're now approaching Delta Vega. Course set for a standard orbit. This planet, completely uninhabited, is slightly smaller than Earth. Desolate, but rich in crystal and minerals. Kelso's task, transport down with a repair party, try to regenerate the main engines, save the ship. Our task, transport down a man I've known for fifteen years, and if we're successful, maroon him there.

So, sorry, but I'm not the one confused here. ;)
 
You quoted a bunch f stuff - but I guess you forgot chose NOT to remember this Captain's Log entry made BY James T. Kirk in TOS S1 - "Where No Man Has Gone Before": http://www.chakoteya.net/StarTrek/2.htm
James T. Kirk: Star date 1313.1. We're now approaching Delta Vega. Course set for a standard orbit. This planet, completely uninhabited, is slightly smaller than Earth. Desolate, but rich in crystal and minerals. Kelso's task, transport down with a repair party, try to regenerate the main engines, save the ship. Our task, transport down a man I've known for fifteen years, and if we're successful, maroon him there.
So, sorry, but I'm not the one confused here. ;)
Are you sure? It's literarily in the text you quoted:
In "Where No Man Has Gone Before";

Star date 1313.1. We're now approaching Delta Vega. Course set for a standard orbit. This planet, completely uninhabited, is slightly smaller than Earth. Desolate, but rich in crystal and minerals. Kelso's task, transport down with a repair party, try to regenerate the main engines, save the ship. Our task, transport down a man I've known for fifteen years, and if we're successful, maroon him there.

KIrk does not say that he became a close friend with Gary Mitchell as soon as they met. His words make it possible that they didn't become friends until years after they met. And that is a very important chronological consideration.
The clear implication by @MAGolding 's thorough analysis is that Kirk has known Mitchell for 15 years, they've just not been close friends all that time. It is perfectly pssible to be the former without the latter.
 
I disagree. Gary took a deadly dart for Kirk, fixed him up with someone he nearly married; and they were close for 15 years to the point Kirk ask for him to be assigned to his ship (Kirk's first command).

So yeah, I'd say they were in fact very close.
AS close was what I said. Most of us are close to some people and closER to others.
 
One intriguing possibility is that if Mitchell was on the Enterprise while Pike was in command, Kirk may have gotten to know Spock through Mitchell.
 
"The Conscience of the KIng" states that the Tarsus IV massacre happened 20 years earlier. The script says that Kirk was already a midshipman then, but those scenes were not filmed, making it possible for Kirk to have been a young civilian child on Tarsus IV for some reason.

-SPOCK: But he was certainly among the most ruthless, to decide arbitrarily who would survive and who would not, using his own personal standards, and then to implement his decision without mercy. Children watching their parents die. Whole families destroyed. Over four thousand people.​

Tarsus Four Earth colony had a population over 8000 and over 4000 were killed.

-LEIGHTON: Jim, Jim, I need your help. There were only eight or nine of us who actually saw Kodos. I was one, you were another.
-COMPUTER: Data being received. Kodos file of all survivors. There are nine actual eye witnesses who can identify Kodos.
-SPOCK: He'd better. There were nine eye witnesses who survived the massacre, who'd actually seen Kodos with their own eyes. Jim Kirk was one of them. With the exception of Riley and Captain Kirk, every other eye witness is dead.
-MCCOY: Medical log. Lieutenant Riley's sufficiently recovered to be discharged, but the Captain's ordered him restricted to Sickbay to prevent contact with the passenger who calls himself Karidian and who's suspected of being Kodos the Executioner and of murdering the Lieutenant's family.​

So, there was only 9 eye witnesses who survived the massacre that can identify Kodos. Kirk and young Riley are the last two after 20 years.

My questions in Kirk's background are, "who was 13 year old Kirk living with on that colony, and why were Kirk, Leighton and Riley, as children, eye witnesses? Extrapolating from Spock's statement above, "Children watching their parents die" and that Riley's family were killed and he was a witness, was this the same for Kirk? Kirk's father and older brother Sam survived into Kirk's adult years but we never learn anything about Kirk's mother. Did Kirk watched his mother get executed by Kodos? Wow. :eek:
 
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