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Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 3x10 - "New Life and New Civilizations"

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For me:

Lift Us Where Suffering Cannot Reach
Those Old Scientists
The Sehlat Who Ate its Tail
I’ll go with:

A Quality of Mercy
Tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow

I can’t really think of one from season 3 I really liked. The zombie one had some fun stuff.

Those Old Scientists was good but I felt like the Lower Decks characters weren’t in character. From watching Lower Decks, Mariner would have acted rather differently.
 
I am usually a big fan of Star Trek mythologizing as it did in Deep Space Nine. However, them talking about the Vezda being the evil that predates the concept evil is complete nonsense. This is also one of the most classic "Chosen One" stories and those are pretty terrible without a twist. Even the Ancient Greeks believed in prophecy twists.

Oh and about the need for the ships for perfect synchronicity, if only you could link, I dunno, COMPUTERS?
 
I am usually a big fan of Star Trek mythologizing as it did in Deep Space Nine. However, them talking about the Vezda being the evil that predates the concept evil is complete nonsense. This is also one of the most classic "Chosen One" stories and those are pretty terrible without a twist. Even the Ancient Greeks believed in prophecy twists.

Oh and about the need for the ships for perfect synchronicity, if only you could link, I dunno, COMPUTERS?
They said it had to be manual for some reason. They’re not allowed to link them.
 
I am usually a big fan of Star Trek mythologizing as it did in Deep Space Nine. However, them talking about the Vezda being the evil that predates the concept evil is complete nonsense. This is also one of the most classic "Chosen One" stories and those are pretty terrible without a twist. Even the Ancient Greeks believed in prophecy twists.

Oh and about the need for the ships for perfect synchronicity, if only you could link, I dunno, COMPUTERS?
Yeah, a lot of this was just plain dumb. Betal never felt she fit in because she was in reverse time as a human that was originally an ancient portal guard? What?
 
I was wondering if it's supposed to be that, or the lights of zetar?

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DUDE! YES! The people were put into those capsules as well! So that would make total sense!
 
I'm going to give it an 8.5, because there was a lot of elements of other shows I like: Babylon 5 and Stargate were a couple that really stuck out at me. And TNG's The Inner Light at the last quarter of the episode there. Did not like the fact that it wasn't any familiar aliens we knew of before, though the idea that it COULD of been the Zetarans is a plausible idea. Either way, was hoping that it would've been Redjac in some way, or maybe Redjac adjacent. Either way, it was a decent episode but borrowed heavily on other episodes of other Trek shows and scifi shows.
 
This episode was... average I guess. I gave it a 7.

The idea was fine, although when someone on another board said it was a Stargate episode I couldn't unsee it when I got to the Daniel-esque ending.

My issues:

  • Scope is so small for Batel being the chosen one. She has the DNA of three races and can access ancient powers somehow encoded into DNA through evolution... even if you handwave it, why Human, Illyrian and Gorn? Someone mentioned that it could be the progenitor DNA that we know humans have, but that would mean anyone would be able to get those powers if they take the magic mushrooms. I would have rather they just made humans the chosen race, like in Mass Effect or Halo, because it would have felt like it made more sense to me. Or they needed to actually expand the scope to make it feel like a Galaxy-wide threat that needed a Galaxy-wide solution, like having a Klingon captain show up to donate their blood to Batel or something.
  • The whole Good vs Evil thing also felt half-baked. But I guess it somehow felt more fulfilling than the Pah Wraiths and Prophets thing from DS9, which even on a rewatch I thought really went nowhere especially in Season 7 with Dukat and Wynn. I'm not sure what would have made it better though, but as it stands it wasn't exactly a satisfying finale... it just felt like a way to write off Batel because she needs to die in order for Pike to fall in love with Vina.
  • On that note, the relationship speed run felt really cheap to me. Maybe I'm a hypocrite because I like The Inner Light, but this version just felt like they were making up for not really developing their relationship this season, if not over the 3 years they had previously. It felt very much "tell" instead of "show"... but I suppose it's why they had things like that Vulcan episode.
  • They really desperately just want to make TOS episodes by the way they keep shoehorning in Kirk. Maybe it made sense that he needed to be the one to fire the weapons with Spock, but why wouldn't the Farragut Captain be the one to offer her ship to help the Enterprise? They even hired someone to be on the bridge of the Farragut, so they could have just had her speak to Pike instead. At this point I expect Kirk to be in every episode next year.
I don't know if this is nitpicky bullshit... probably is... but I don't think I've really been satisfied with any of the SNW finales, but at least this wraps up the Gorn and Batel and gives them a clean slate. This was really a weak season though and felt like a drop in quality from the last season. I had my issues with Discovery S4 and S5 and the obsession with trying to tell a fully serialized season, but I think they may have been stronger than SNW S3.

Hopefully with this clean slate S4 is good.
 
I imagine that the child they had being an illusion or popping out of existence is only going to make events even more horrifyingly traumatizing for Chris.
The couple they picked to be Pike's daughter and April's son seemed way too young to be engaged, especially the girl.
 
10 episodes just goes by pretty fast especially when the first two stream on one night. So it’s 9 weeks instead of 10.

Well, that was an episode. Not sure what to think of it but that whole scene with Pike an Batel living a whole lifetime together had me in tears.

Looks like this was an episode meant to wrap the show in case season 4 didn’t happen.
 
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