Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 1x03 - "Ghosts of Illyria"

My time watching TV is quite limited, and I want to keep it that way.

 

I'm genuinely astonished at people trying to rank SNW against other Trek series after only three episodes. Imagine trying to rank TNG objectively after "Encounter at Farpoint", "The Naked Now", and motherfucking "Code of Honor"...

 

I've watched a fair amount of entertainment during my several decades walking this earth. I'm a pretty good judge when it comes to knowing what I like, and I'm dead certain I don't have to justify my reasoning to anyone.

 

You must be aware that as children grow their bone structure hardens and grows with them.
(even human children)
It's entirely possible that at birth, an Illyrian baby has only a slight resemblance to a grown adult so as to ease it's travel through the mother's birth canal.
Which would also reduce the likelihood internal damage to the Mother.
(And your comparison pic's seem to very much confirm this)

Then as the Illyrian child grows to an adult, the prominent boney features would fully develop.

It is actually Science.

 

Yoda reminds us, there is no try. Do, or do not.

I did.

That is, I ranked the first three episodes of SNW against all the other streaming-era episodes, and stated that qualification.

If there's anything astonishing here, it's that there really isn't anything astonishing about it at all.

It's just another way of saying that SNW is off to a great start, especially when you compare it to other streaming-era Star Trek.

It's also a statement that SNW has a long way to fall. If the episodes start sucking, it will be disappointing.

 

Totally disagree. The infection and Una's revelation are the same plot -- the A plot, owned by Una. The B plot is Spock and Pike on the planet. M'Benga's secret is the C plot and it comprises exactly three scenes: Hemmer getting suspicious, Una confronting M'Benga, and M'Benga comforting his daughter.

That's a very broad question that would depend on the specifics of her childhood. The most we can say is that it is well-established in ST canon that verbal harassment and abuse between children has not been eliminated from Federation society (e.g., Spock's abuse as a childhood, Bashir's childhood, the girls in Short Treks: "Children of Mars," etc.).

Because United Earth has a deeply-ingrained anti-genetic engineering prejudice that is pervasive through its culture and those of its offshots, one that is all about "othering" people and is not fully rational, and the Federation has absorbed at least part of that prejudice.

God I hope not. He hated Section 31 in S2 of DIS.

 

I am aware of elementary biology, thank you.

That is entirely possible and is a completely legitimate interpretation of the canonical evidence, but it is not one I agree with for reasons I've outlined already.

 

It would have been nice for them to give a little credit to D.C. Fontana. Just an "inspired by" would have been great. She wrote Vulcan's glory in 1989 and it had stuff right out of this storyline.

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Vulcan's_Glory

Great episode! Gave it a 9/10

Loved getting to see more of this version of the Enterprise. I have to say it looks totally gorgeous to my eyes. From the exteriors of the ship to interiors. The writing on Trek has taken an incline imo. Please keep it up!

 

Fair enough. For your consideration, however, I thought I'd hate LD and absolutely didn't, and it's only 10 episodes of 23 minutes a season.

 

So you'd rather be a contrarian than spend a bit of time actually figuring out a way to make stuff work.

That's not how I like to enjoy my favorite show after 50 some odd years, but OK, to each their own.

 

Conceded on B and C but Una's subplot being connected to the main plot doesn't mean they're one and the same. In fact the B and C plots are also connected to the A plot.

 

Totally agreed. In addition to their longstanding use of exploitative work-for-hire contracts that force authors to sign away rights to original characters and concepts they create for tie-in novels and allow Paramount to reuse those elements without compensation, Paramount these days has also developed a habit of reusing elements from novels and other apocrypha without even giving a "Special Thanks" credit. They did the same thing when they used the character of Control from the novel Section 31: Control, without giving a special thanks to author David Mack.

 

I explicitly said that your interpretation is plausible and legitimate; I'm not sure how much less contrarian I could be.

 

Thanks, I will keep it in mind over the summer months.

 

I don't think that's very fair. It's not our job, as audience members, to make "make stuff work". It's the writers'. Now, I'm not saying I agree with Sci. Just that I don't think your response is very fair to him.

 

If I remember correctly, Mr. Mack commented on that in this very BBS and was OK with it.
Though I also seem to remember him mentioning that someone from the production office did eventually reach out to him.

 

He has a right to feel however he wants to feel about it -- but a contract that gives the corporation to right to benefit from a person's labor without compensation or acknowledgment is still exploitative. And it's gross not to at least give a special thanks.

 

Obviously, you haven't been a Trek enthusiast since TOS hit the airwaves and that was pretty much standard procedure for over a decade and beyond.

 

Heh ... "Yes, Yes.., your Corporate Hatred will only make you stronger ... "