Star Trek: Starships Model/Magazine Subscription
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Have to admit this made me pre-order it even though it's an eventual subscriber special.
Now I want all the ones in the E-D ready room done. However, I WON"T be breaking "my little ships" in a fit of rage!
Honestly, I have yet to find a good spray paint that will give the kind of mirrored sheen that the actual chroming process provides. Gloss coat only makes it shiny, not reflective. Believe me, I've been looking for years. Nothing comes close.
There seems to be some ambiguity behind-the-scenes about that Viper. From his portfolio, it looks like the modeler, Pierre Drolet, didn't consider the B&C Viper a Mark III (he lists it as a IIb, and seems to almost consider it a retcon, since the II we know and love was based on the design that became the III, after it was shrunk and simplified to build the full-size set pieces, which was then used as reference for the VFX model used on the show). The original script had the line calling the Vipers Mark IIIs, but also indicated that it was referring to a different kind of ship than the Vipers used in the rest of the film, which were specifically referred to as Mark IIs (including a note specifying the ship Adama flew at the very end of the movie had the same tail number as the one presented to him at the beginning of the miniseries). Doug Drexler seemed to be the point-man for production design lore on B&C, and he's the who has talked the most about the new Viper design being the Mark III, and having a plan to incorporate Mark IIs into potential future editions as still being in use because they were smaller and more nimble and were better for hotshot pilots like Adama, but based on the other information, that seems like a bit of post-hoc behind-the-scenes gap-filling, even though we found out about it at the same time the movie was released.
It could be that from Eaglemoss's perspective, getting all that contradictory information handed to them made them more conservative about what to call it, rather than going with the obvious interpretation based on the final film and the most public comments about the tech lore.
It could be that from Eaglemoss's perspective, getting all that contradictory information handed to them made them more conservative about what to call it, rather than going with the obvious interpretation based on the final film and the most public comments about the tech lore.
For a gold Chrome.. Best is to decant (take a gold Chrome spray paint and spray it into a container/bottle) then spray it with an airbrush.
Or Molotov makes a good Chrome but it takes weeks to dry!
And take the 2500 amt ship collection that goes for 70$ and paint it gold!
Or Molotov makes a good Chrome but it takes weeks to dry!
And take the 2500 amt ship collection that goes for 70$ and paint it gold!
Yeah, it never made sense to me that the Viper known as the Mk III (used in the B&C prequel) came chronologically before the Mk II. I could see where maybe it was a prototype that was briefly used in service for the few years that a young Adama was shown, and then quickly upgraded to the smaller, faster and more maneuverable version that had become the main workhorse fighter in the fleet.
Since the Mk I was always considered the TOS version, they kind of painted themselves into a corner when they built the new model with their naming conventions.
Since the Mk I was always considered the TOS version, they kind of painted themselves into a corner when they built the new model with their naming conventions.
This reminds me of the mess a couple of tie-in games make by calling the Discovery-version USS Enterprise a Mk II Constitution-class starship.
How so?
In “The Enterprise War” it’s said the Enterprise was rebuilt to look like it did in DSC for the mission to the Pergamum Nebula. That could make it the Mk II version, as opposed to the Mk I it was from 2245-54 and again in 2264.
Which games? I know STO doesn't. They just call it Discovery Constitution Class
Their lead ship designer likes the design, but dislikes that they made it bigger.
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It's said that there were nonspecific modifications made for the mission, which depending on future works could be regarded as going from TOS to DSC to TOS designs, or just were just non-cosmetic equipment upgrades. Apparently, from the Short Treks, it was the latter and the ship just looks like that now, though the new tech books and games seem afraid of embracing the retcon.
As well they should be! You can't really make tech books or games based on Star Trek with the perspective that no one knows what anything looks like anymore, which is how it's gotta be if you're combining DSC's production design with fifty years of legalistic approaches to the Trek talmud. What they seem to want to do, but can't bring themselves to go through with, is something like what the Halo games have done, where everything gets redesigned to some extent for every game, thanks to advancing technology, with the lore becoming a byzantine maze of retconned appearances and things that are actually supposed to look subtly different, and new designs aren't any more set-in-stone than the old ones and changes survive or revert in an almost darwinian way.
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Star Trek Timelines, I think? One of the mobile ones.
In desperation, I've scoured eBay for the Enterprise-F and Bonaventure. I found a single "F" that wasn't the STO version, but the price was too obscene for me to justify spending on a single ship. As for the Bonaventure, the only one I found was from someone in Russia.
I'm starting to wonder if they're ever going to be restocked. These are exactly the type of models Eaglemoss can safely assume will sell.
I'm starting to wonder if they're ever going to be restocked. These are exactly the type of models Eaglemoss can safely assume will sell.
Second batch is probably on the slow boat from China. They seem to run a very lean operation, as in, they don't carry huge amounts of stock in their warehouses. That means if they underestimate demand for something, it may well be 4-6 months (longer around Chinese New Year) to resupply. This is not an uncommon turnaround for outsourced manufacturing.
As to why they do it this way, the opportunity cost (lost sales due to out of stock) is probably less than the cost of unwanted stock should they order too much. To the people think "but the customers" or "they're greedy" should understand that conservative planning means they can financially justify some of the more unusual and arcane models. It's a risk mitigation tool. The downside is, sometimes, you gotta wait.
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Received the Phase II concept shuttle today. The Phase II shuttle just doesn't look like a Trek ship. It feels more Captain Proton/Flash Gordon than anything in the Federation regardless of time period. The Jefferies concept shuttles looks/feels more Trek than this one but even that one seems off. Looks maybe more Lost In Space or Incredible Voyage.
We’ve probably just been influenced by 50+ years of shuttlecraft designs that started with something that looked like a butter dish with warp engines. If they had been able to use the original Jeffries design, I bet we’d have a completely different idea of what “Trek” shuttlecraft should look like.
With regard to the Phase II design, I always wondered if it was the basis for the NX-01 shuttlepods.
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