Star Trek: Starships Model/Magazine Subscription

Discussion in 'General Trek Discussion' started by trekker670, May 21, 2013.

  1. King Bob!

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    That has bugged the shit out of me since I first saw the episode. Only thing I can think of, is that the Romulans were going to threaten to level all of Vulcan's cities from orbit if they didn't surrender.
     
  2. Tomalak

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    Or 2000 troops were enough to capture the key planetary defence command posts to allow reinforcements from the waiting cloaked warbirds.

    That was just the initial covert part of the invasion.
     
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  3. NOVE9

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    When it comes to planetary defenses in star trek, they seem to be non existent in the federation. The amount of episodes where there just seemed to be nothing but one ship with in light years of the heart of the federation is crazy.
     
  4. Rahul

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    Not really though. Earth definitely has powerfull defense systems that are not starships, like the drones in "Best of both worlds" or the giant lasers in ENTs "Demon/Terra Prime", or satellite networks catching cloaked ships that are mentioned when they don't have them in far out space.

    It's just that the threats in all these cases were so massive and powerfull - Borg cubes, the whale probe which deactivated all technology, the unstoppable V'Ger - that we never saw them working. The Enterprise wasn't saving the day because it was the most powerfull defense system - but because it was carying the smartest people directly to the puzzle.

    I blame that assertion of defenseless planets on Star Trek squarely on Deep Sapce 9 - because it completely squandered Trek's rules of combat, and instead introduced WWII battle rules (because, honestly, they look cooler) - in which suddenly aircraft carriers were the only direct method of defense for the mainland. And then Star Trek (2009) re-inforcing that idea, with both Vulcan and Earth not being able to put up ANY type of resistance against a future Romulan oil-tanker/refinery vessel (:rolleyes:).
     
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  5. Rahul

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    As for this part - first of all, yeah, that episode's plan in it's entirety is a bit ridiculous - but IMO the plan always wasn't for a "full on invasion" with these troops - but them being the spearhead to deliver a killing blow: 2000 Elite soldiers, who can beam as small teams directly into the biggest command centers of Vulcan (say, the Vulcan White House, Pentagon, and largest Airforce base at once) - and hold the position and sow chaos until the REAL occupation force could arrive.

    Like the Trojan horse - the greeks didn't put their army inside that wooden horse. Just the elite fighters that opened the doors from the inside for the real army to get inside the city.
     
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  6. Nate

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    XL Klingon Bird of Prey is available on the US website.

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  7. F. King Daniel

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    Earth had defences in ST'09, we just never saw them. Nero got the codes from Pike with the Ceti Eel.
     
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  8. Markonian

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    UK here. Discovery issue 13 has been delivered, the worker bee. Issue 12/Enterprise has been skipped because out of stock.

    But they included the ISS Shenzhou, which is great.
     
  9. Michael

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    Not sure what to think of a subscription service that doesn't seem to consider their subscribers a priority. How can an issue be out of stock for subscribers? Hard to imagine that there has been a sudden overflow of new subscribers or anything like that. :wtf:
     
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  10. King Bob!

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    They seem to be an awful company to deal with. Whether your a subscriber or not.
     
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  11. drt

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    It’s been like that since the original starship collection started.
     
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  12. 137th Gebirg

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    Yep. Subs have always taken a back seat to the main online store ever since the beginning.
     
  13. KamenRiderBlade

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    I concur, it seems like the Federation hasn't learned their lessons with the Dominion Attack on StarFleet or Borg Cube nearly Assimilating Earth.

    Here are my thoughts on Planetary Defenses:
    Fighters, per Discovery

    This is the kind of Planetary Defenses: I want to see:


    Along with a Planetary Shield & Shield Gate:
     
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  14. mswood

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    It’s not something new most businesses that do both subscription and brick and mortar sales will, if a shortage happens give stock to stores first. It’s fairly basic business practice. At one point I was getting three of each ship, but even at that rate most shops would order more. Then there is the fact that a subscriber sought out the product (it’s something they knew they wanted), stores also depend on impulse buyers (who the store and supplier hope will become a steady new customer). If the product doesn’t hit the shelf, you loose a window on getting an impulse buyer who might become a new long term customer.

    Of course, the real issue is what causes the shortage. Higher failure rate? Lower rate of people cancelling subscriptions (which tend to increase over time), or just trying to save money company cut production.

    And customer service wise Eaglemoss is either fine or utterly terrible.
     
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  15. mswood

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    I can’t believe how pissed I am about the XL runabout. Aaaarrrrgggggghhhhh. Sure it’s not an abomination like the refit Enterprise but such a small ship and missing details you can clearly see on screen with both the physical and the later CGI model.
     
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  16. pst

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    UK store has preorders up for the USS edison (which we've all seen but new angles):
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    and the festoon from "magic to make the sanest man go mad" which is... interesting:
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    i wouldn't say they've been on a hot streak these past couple weeks.
     
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  17. Doom Shepherd

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    So for those of you who had late magazines for the Bonaventure and STO-Enterprise...

    How late were they? I’m closing in on 4 months.
     
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  18. 137th Gebirg

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    Yep, sounds about right. Still nothing on my end.

    Also still missing the USS Lantree (#138) and now the Fesarius (#146).
     
  19. Rahul

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    I cannot overstate how much I loved this design appearing on screen - being something totally different from the boring same-y looking Federation/Klingon ships, doing some great underhanded worldbuilding (looking like a super-rich dude's private Yacht, something that would fit right into TOS, but we have never, ever seen on Trek before!), having great unique look and design language, and actually also fitting very well in what the TOS era is supposed to look like! - all in all making the DIS universe so much richer just by it's short appereance....

    ...and how much I at the same time don't care at all about this model or ever owning it myself, as - unlike some other, great background designs like the Merchantman - it simply doesn't look that interesting on it's own.
     
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  20. 137th Gebirg

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    I always loved that stupidly enormous hood ornament on the bow of the yacht. The singular thing that could have made it better was to make it a big hand sticking up its middle finger.