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Yeah, that's the way it looked in Voyager (about one minute in); the green lighting pattern doesn't match up though:
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these look bad:
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Seriously. I fuckin hate the TOS remastered cgi models and space vfx.:shifty:
I love the remastered image quality. But the space-shots are a big part of a space opera for me. And everytime the cartoon-y models are visibly, I want to go back to the low-resolution original. The remastered shots are an abomination.

When they announced the TOS Tholian ship, I was (naively) expecting the original model. Yes, that was pretty bare. But so is this. And the models aren't that big.
 
I love the remastered image quality. But the space-shots are a big part of a space opera for me. And everytime the cartoon-y models are visibly, I want to go back to the low-resolution original.
And, thankfully, that's what you can easily do with the blu-ray version of TOS-R. ;)

Love the look of the new models we are getting. Except for that Borg monstrosity, they can keep that. :shifty:
 
And, thankfully, that's what you can easily do with the blu-ray version of TOS-R. ;)

Which, in other words, is no improvement. at. all. over the image quality of the DVDs or, hell, the old videotapes. And sadly all re-runs are now the remastered version.

In all seriousness though: It would have been great if they sold a version with the cleaned up & improved image quality without the added CGI. I'd have no problems if the space shots would still be grain-y and lower res than the rest, if its still the original shots, and not the new crap with floating camera movements and pans that clash with the mostly static shots of the whole rest of the show.

I would actually shell out good money for that. Like for the TNG blu-ray boxes.
 
In all seriousness though: It would have been great if they sold a version with the cleaned up & improved image quality without the added CGI.
They did. And they're on the Blu-rays that you were just shitting on. :)

I'd have no problems if the space shots would still be grain-y and lower res than the rest, if its still the original shots, and not the new crap with floating camera movements and pans that clash with the mostly static shots of the whole rest of the show.
I would actually shell out good money for that.
https://www.amazon.com/Star-Trek-Or...1526461644&sr=8-12&keywords=star+trek+blu-ray
 
They did. And they're on the Blu-rays that you were just shitting on. :)


https://www.amazon.com/Star-Trek-Or...1526461644&sr=8-12&keywords=star+trek+blu-ray

Okay, let me get this straight, because I read conflicting reports there: The un-altered version on the Blu-Ray still has the improved image quality?

Because as far as I understood it, it offered basically the new remastered version (better image quality, but also the new crappy effects) and the original DVD version (somewhat improved image quality from the earlier DVD scans, but not the complete HD overhaul they did for the Blu-Ray, but containing the original effects). Is that wrong? Is the original version on the Blu-Ray the same HD like the remastered one, just without the vfx? Because THEN I would take back everything! :lol:

It's just...confusing... I read the opposite, and I hadn't had a chance to confirm it myself, and to just "take a try" the Blu-Ray boxes are definitely too expensive.
 
With the early Earth ships from ENT’s opening credits added, you think they may include young Archer’s toy ship? It’s the missing link between space shuttle/165 and SS Emmette.
 
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Okay, let me get this straight, because I read conflicting reports there: The un-altered version on the Blu-Ray still has the improved image quality?

Because as far as I understood it, it offered basically the new remastered version (better image quality, but also the new crappy effects) and the original DVD version (somewhat improved image quality from the earlier DVD scans, but not the complete HD overhaul they did for the Blu-Ray, but containing the original effects). Is that wrong? Is the original version on the Blu-Ray the same HD like the remastered one, just without the vfx? Because THEN I would take back everything! :lol:

It's just...confusing... I read the opposite, and I hadn't had a chance to confirm it myself, and to just "take a try" the Blu-Ray boxes are definitely too expensive.
The episodes on the Blu-rays are fully remastered during live action at all times. They use seamless branching to switch between original effects and CG.

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Star-Trek-The-Original-Series-Season-2-Blu-ray/6281/#Review

Who's been telling you the original cuts are in DVD quality on the Blu-rays?
 
The episodes on the Blu-rays are fully remastered during live action at all times. They use seamless branching to switch between original effects and CG.

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Star-Trek-The-Original-Series-Season-2-Blu-ray/6281/#Review

Who's been telling you the original cuts are in DVD quality on the Blu-rays?

There is just extremely little information presented about the non-cgi extended version on those Blu-Rays. Does that mean the original space shots aren't touched up at all? Because that might be a problem as well, and a slight cleaning up of them from obvious degradation wouldn't hurt.

So far, all the information available was mostly talking about the "whole" remastered version, including the new vfx. It's not unreasonable to assume that - like the original Star Wars - the "new" version is the one where image and sound quality has been improved, and the "old" version that's available as an add-on as being purely an afterthought by the creators, with little to no work on it done at all.

Your link is very helpful!
Apparently all live-action is remastered no matter which version. If they worked a bit on the image quality of the original space shots as well isn't too clear though. Anyway, might be worth thinking about getting them in the long run after all!
 
When they announced the TOS Tholian ship, I was (naively) expecting the original model. Yes, that was pretty bare. But so is this. And the models aren't that big.
i generally prefer the updated stuff (designs, not effects), but i was hoping for an unadulterated tholian ship too. just a solid piece of translucent red resin.
 
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There is just extremely little information presented about the non-cgi extended version on those Blu-Rays. Does that mean the original space shots aren't touched up at all? Because that might be a problem as well, and a slight cleaning up of them from obvious degradation wouldn't hurt.

There were no negatives to touch up. The effects stuff is gone. Though, watching on 4K, I think they look fine. But, I grew up with them.
 
i generally prefer the updated stuff (designs, not effects), but i was hoping for an unadulterated tholian ship too. just a solid piece of translucent red resin.

Well, the original often times is only a single light effect for a starship, or even none at all. The updated stuff is hit (Orion ship from "journey to Babel") and miss (the Gorn ship). It's obvious though a lot of thought went into it - even if I prefer the original, the remastered design usually fits very well with the Trek world of the later spin-offs.
 
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Well, the original often times is only a single light effect for a starship, or even none at all. The updated stuff is hit (Orion ship from "journey to Babel") and miss (the Gorn ship). It's obvious though a lot of thought went into it - even if I prefer the original, the remastered design usually fits very well with the Trek world of the later spin-offs.
funnily, not a single one of the TOS remastered ships has looked good in eaglemoss-form. at least not to me.
 
^ Lets recap on the TOS-R ships we got:
Gorn ship - non-monochrome color. Nacelle caps are made purple. Missing two rear-ward stingers on the wings.
Antares - shape well done. Missing decals.
Orion pirate - intricate, with lovely execution of the ring engine.

Connie variants, Botany Bay, D7 and Romulan BoP were done original TOS style. (Added decals on ISS Enterprise)

Upcoming: Tholian spinner, Eymorg ion-drive ship

Edit: corrected BotBay
 
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Just curious: Have Eaglemoss done or are they planning to do the original SS Aurora? Backwards Tholian ship with nacelles > space VW bus
 
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