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Spoilers Star Trek: Starfleet Academy 1x05 – “Series Acclimation Mil”

Rate the episode...

  • 10 - Excellent!

    Votes: 45 27.3%
  • 9

    Votes: 41 24.8%
  • 8

    Votes: 25 15.2%
  • 7

    Votes: 22 13.3%
  • 6

    Votes: 7 4.2%
  • 5

    Votes: 5 3.0%
  • 4

    Votes: 3 1.8%
  • 3

    Votes: 5 3.0%
  • 2

    Votes: 2 1.2%
  • 1 - Terrible.

    Votes: 10 6.1%

  • Total voters
    165
TOS tech was most relatable.

The rest is just magical. I mean, TOS was with the warp drive and transporter too, but it felt more pragmatic. And, while I can enjoy a technical manual every once in a while that's not why I'm watching a story. I want stories about people. I don't care about representation other than it being a fitting cross-section of the society as best as casting can.

But, ultimately, I'm watching a story for people, and if the tech takes center stage I'm usually tuning out.
Absolutely.

You care more about the theoretical technology being shown than minority representation?

This is what's referred to as a "wife-beating question."
 
I don't think we should frame that cynically in terms of the writing. It feels rather natural to me, not "a prop"
I agree with your entire post other than the seeming implication that my comment you were responding to was sarcastic; I meant it sincerely, though I can see how it reads ambiguously.

Unless I'm the one reading tone into something that isn't there, in which case never mind. 🙂
 
I agree with your entire post other than the seeming implication that my comment you were responding to was sarcastic; I meant it sincerely, though I can see how it reads ambiguously.

Unless I'm the one reading tone into something that isn't there, in which case never mind. 🙂
Apols I must have misunderstood! I took it as a criticism about "nostalgia" in ST writing, but I obviously saw something not there!
 
In regards to the computer graphics errors (like on the Sisko family tree), it should be noted none of the modern shows are very good at these. Remember in Disco, they established the Trill host they were seeking information from was living in the Dominion War, yet his computer file lists his birth and death dates in the 23rd century. So things like the Sisko family tree errors and other computer stuff in this episode are just cool and normal.

It is ironic they're sloppier about these details in an era when they know the audience is going to be checking it out, but what can you do?
 
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I did a double-take; the lighting hinders legibility but it looks like it read as "Non-Corporal Being"? Or do I need new glasses?

You're right. ANOTHER error noted.

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Way to go guys. :rommie:
Oh, wow. It does say that instead of 'non-corporeal being'. Okay... I'm sorry, but that too? That graphic was just complete laziness.

Honestly should not have made that graphic at all.
 
One things this episode does make me wonder about is just how widespread the holoemitter network is. It seems the entirety of Earth can support humanoid holograms now but it could be interesting to have an episode that explores what it's like for SAM to need to use a mobile emitter because the Athena takes the crew somewhere that just can't project a hologram.
 
In regards to the computer graphics errors (like on the Sisko family tree), it should be noted none of the modern shows are very good at these. Remember in Disco, they established the Trill host they were seeking information from was living in the Dominion War, yet his computer file lists his birth and death dates in the 23rd century. So things like the Sisko family tree errors and other computer stuff in this episode are just cool and normal.

It is ironic they're sloppier about these details in an era when they know the audience is going to be checking it out, but what can you do?
Except most of those errors in the current live action shows are small-medium sized graphics and none of those episodes are essentially tribute episodes to a past series.

This graphic was a large one that took up a good chunk of the tv screen and was part of a tribute to a beloved character and series. AND had MORE than just a single error... errors that were totally unforced.

It's definitely egregious.
 
One things this episode does make me wonder about is just how widespread the holoemitter network is. It seems the entirety of Earth can support humanoid holograms now but it could be interesting to have an episode that explores what it's like for SAM to need to use a mobile emitter because the Athena takes the crew somewhere that just can't project a hologram.
I'm sure at this point mobile emitters are likely internalized. Something like Rimmer's Light Bee on Red Dwarf.
Except most of those errors in the current live action shows are small-medium sized graphics and nome of those episodes are essentially tribute episodes to a past series.

This graphic was a large one that took up a good chunk of the tv screen and was part of a tribute to a beloved character and series. AND had MORE than just a single error... errors that were totally unforced.

It's definitely egregious.
But probably still done by the same people who did those other graphics. At this point they're a known quantity and there's no point in being surprised at the fact they're making the same mistakes they've been making for the past nine years.
 
I'm sure at this point mobile emitters are likely internalized. Something like Rimmer's Light Bee on Red Dwarf.

But probably still done by the same people who did those other graphics. At this point they're a known quantity and there's no point in being surprised at the fact they're making the same mistakes they've been making for the past nine years.
I think irritation is a more accurate term to describe what is being said than surprise. At least, in my case. It's why this is a 7.5 instead of an 8 to me.
 
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You dropped your score because the art department messed up a display that is hard to read even if you pause it? I guess I agree it's a negative mark, but I hope it didn't drop the score by much.

The art department doesn’t operate in a vacuum. This is not a hard thing to get right.


I realized that it was hard to read, but heck why even bother getting it right then?
 
Maybe it was deliberate. The displays were donated by the Sisko family, and perhaps there was deliberate misinformation put into the displays for some reason. Safety, privacy, family secrets.. who knows?
 
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The art department doesn’t operate in a vacuum. This is not a hard thing to get right.


I realized that it was hard to read, but heck why even bother getting it right then?
Actually, that graphic was not hard to read. It was front and center of the shot and took up most of the screen (tv, laptop, whatever this is viewed with). And it was how Sam found Jake, so it was a shot that held importance to the story and the character.

With the amount of errors that was shown, it would have been better to NOT do this graphic at all and find a different way for Sam to discover Jake.

If a show is going to open itself up with something like this by saying 'we did our research, just look at our work', they should make sure it's as error free as possible. Especially in this era where it's so easy to not only see these graphics but also see if they are correct or not. Can't really fault the audience for noticing so many glaring errors.
 
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