I'm sure in 2030 when Section 31 gets its mandatory five year review it will be found to be not as bad as everyone said it was in 2025 and much better than the crap that'll be recent releases. This is the way.
Spoilers STAR TREK: SECTION 31 - Grading & Discussion
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Threshold is absolutely awful. Like Conspiracy it leans on body horror and then doubles down on not making sense.
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Pretty sure even Joel and the 'Bots would find a way out of watching this one.
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Don't insult the Mads like that. 
True, even Bobo could make a better movie.Don't insult the Mads like that.
Although it's almost entirely her fault it exists.
Threshold is nowhere near as bad as people like to make it out to be. The only real problem about it was the salamanders. If Janeway and Paris had instead evolved into super-advanced beings of light like the Vorlons or that guy from TNG's 'Transfigurations,' everybody would have been fine with it.
Watched it for the 1st time yesterday. Got a lot of Highlander The Source vibes. Felt like it was trying hard to be kick ass movie but fell short
Oh, wow... it does. That's a movie I have not seen in a long time. Boy, was it BAAAAAAD.
Agreed. Having rewatched it just a couple of weeks ago, I can confirm that it’s basically a good or even great episode 3/4 of the way and only falls apart in the last act with the whole salamander business. It has some genuinely good characters moments for Paris and they take the premise very seriously. But even beyond that I personally find the last act enjoyable in a “so bad it’s good” way. I don't think I ever had as much fun watching an episode of Trek as I had when I first watched this with my wife and we giggled at the earnestness with which they portray completely out there stuff like Paris suddenly losing his tongue or Janeway and him struggling to discuss that they just produced salamander offspring.
I can't look at a story that way. Even if a story is great for 3/4 or more of the way through, if they can't stick the landing, then the whole thing is terrible retroactively. In other words, a story is only good as it's ending. At least that's how I see it and I know that that's a "me" thing.
ETA: For an example, ask me why I will never revisit Game of Thrones.
ETA: For an example, ask me why I will never revisit Game of Thrones.
It's not a good episode because it doesn't make sense. What they evolved in to is only part of the problem.
The amount of not making sense and the coda at the end are just ridiculous.
I've seen it more than once. Which means I'm about to turn into a salamander.
If you say so. To me it’s no different than any other episode of Voyager.
Damning with faint praise.
Yes, you´re correct.Although it's almost entirely her fault it exists.
