Star Trek season 2 on Blu-ray [release date Sept. 22]

[jefferiestubes8]

http://www.homemediamagazine.com/blu-ray-disc/star-trek-season-2-blu-ray-due-sept-22-16319

Home Media Magazine reports that Star Trek Season Two on Blu-ray will be released September 22nd, not yet available for-preorder.
As for Season 3, TrekMovie sources indicate that will be out in early 2010.

http://trekmovie.com/2009/07/09/sta...e-trek-home-video-announcements-at-comic-con/

No official list of special features for season 2 yet.


related:
the official season 1 on blu-ray thread:
Star Trek season 1 on blu-ray: April 28







I love how this guy [comment 5] gives the prices for quadruple dips of obsolete formats:

let’s see how it compares. Here’s how much it would cost to get JUST Season 1 in most of the previous releases: Original VHS Release (1 ep per tape, $20.00 each) – $580.00
Laserdisc release (2 eps per disc, $60.00 each) – $900.00
Original DVD release (single discs, 2 eps per disc – $30.00 each) – $450.00
Original DVD Season set – $160.00, original version only (now sells for around $60.00)
HD-DVD/DVD Combo Season Set – $130.00, remastered version only (now sells for around $85.00)
Blu-ray Season 1 set – $120.00 SRP, usually sold for between $60-90, both original and remastered version in HD.

http://trekmovie.com/2009/07/09/sta...e-trek-home-video-announcements-at-comic-con/

 

[Hober Mallow]

...original and remastered version in HD.

This is totally offtopic, but this is my biggest Trek fan pet peeve. I don't get why it's so difficult for fans to comprehend what the word remastered means.

No, the "original and remastered versions" are not on blu-ray. Only the remastered episodes are on blu-ray. You can choose between remastered episodes with original FX or remastered episodes with new FX. No matter which you pick, it's all been remastered in HD.

The new transfer is what makes the show remastered, not new FX. Why is it virtually impossible for fans to get this?

Okay, done venting. Can't wait for season two...

 

[jefferiestubes8]

September 22 Season two of the original series will be offered on Blu-Ray as a seven-disk set, including all twenty-six episodes. Fans will be able to see the show as originally aired, or as remastered versions.

No additional details yet.
July 20, 2009
Paramount Announces Trek Blu-ray Releases

 

[Bones]

...why it's so difficult for fans to comprehend what the word remastered means.

<snip>...

Because the project itself was incorrectly named "Star Trek Remastered" http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/news/TOS/article/28095.html

Agree on your point about the peeve. However "TOSR" is a lot easier to say/write/discuss than "That Heretical Star Trek With Those Fancy New Special Effects That Destroyed A Beautiful Work Of Art" e.g. "THSTWTFNSETDABWOA".

Looking forward to S2 as well...

 

[Doug Otte]

...why it's so difficult for fans to comprehend what the word remastered means.

<snip>...

Because the project itself was incorrectly named "Star Trek Remastered" http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/news/TOS/article/28095.html

Agree on your point about the peeve. However "TOSR" is a lot easier to say/write/discuss than "That Heretical Star Trek With Those Fancy New Special Effects That Destroyed A Beautiful Work Of Art" e.g. "THSTWTFNSETDABWOA".

Looking forward to S2 as well...

I think you missed Hober's point, but I don't see how he could have been more clear. He wasn't complaining about the new effects. He was simply stating that this phrase "...original and remastered version in HD..." is factually incorrect. Both versions of the episodes on the blu-ray are remastered; one has the original effects, while the other has the new CGI effects.

They took the original negatives, cleaned them up a bit, boosted the color and the black levels, then scanned them at a high resolution to make HD masters. That's the remastering.

Then, they inserted the new effects in one copy of the master. That's the version we saw on the boob tube.

We can watch either version of the HD remastered episodes on the blu-rays. Capisce?

Doug

 

[Grant]

I think part of it was----they didn't think there'd be market for the Remastered with the original FX.

So they intended the only 'remastered' version to only have the new FX. And therefore the two thing (new Fx and cleaned up picture) would be synonymous (sp)

When they saw there was a market for the HD versions with the original FX they then had to make two remastered versions. and it created an even more evident mistake in the naming they had started with in 2006.

 

[Bones]

I think you missed Hober's point, but I don't see how he could have been more clear. <snip>

I got his point but probably blurred that with my comment about the new spfx. I was attempting to parody the attitude of a specific subset of fans, not Hober in particular. I understood his comment "Can't wait for season two..." meant he was onboard with the whole thing.

 

[jefferiestubes8]

Amazon.com has a preorder for $74.99 already.

FYI
back on April 28 the Blu-ray of season 1 [release date] was Best Buy retail store $65. + tax

 

[Cap.T]

According to this press release: http://trekmovie.com/2009/08/05/full-details-on-star-trek-season-two-blu-ray-set/ the set is going to contain the DS9-Episode "Trials And Tribble-ations" in HD. I always thought that DS9 had it's post-production done on video like TNG and was therefore unlikley to be released in HD. I wonder what they did with the episode...

 

[man named Gorn]

That is truly impressive...man, Paramount is blowing me away with the work being done on these new Blu sets!

 

[jefferiestubes8]

the set is going to contain the DS9-Episode "Trials And Tribble-ations" in HD. I always thought that DS9 had it's post-production done on video like TNG and was therefore unlikley to be released in HD. I wonder what they did with the episode...

Wow I missed that. You are correct. Hopefully they did not just do an upconversion from 480i to 1080p.
There is interest from DS9 fans to remaster the series from these two threads.
If they actually did a remaster on this episode it would be from the original camera negative and had to re-edit the show and the visual effects recreated... hmm. We'll see in September...

Edit to add:

More Tribbles, More Troubles Episode From Star Trek®: The Animated Series (HD) also says HD.

I wonder did they give the TAS episode the TOS-R remaster treatment from the original cut negative?

 

[Grant]

I'm sure the DS9 episode is just an upconversion. It would have cost thousands to reassemble the film footage and re-edit it----not to mention redoing the FX shots.

But hey i'm really glad they included all of the 'Tribble' tie in episodes and material.

I'm buying this the first day.

 

[Grant]

Confirmed by THE DIGITAL BITS site..........

The DS9 episode is simply an up-convert not a complete redo.
Still I'm glad they enclosed it.
The animated episode IS true HD as it was made on film all the way.

 

[jefferiestubes8]

"The Trouble With Tribbles" (TOS)
Brand New Audio Commentary by David Gerrold

David Gerrold wrote the scripts for the original series' "The Trouble with Tribbles" and its sequel, the animated series' "More Tribbles, More Troubles",

"More Tribbles, More Troubles",

episode was a sequel to David Gerrold's own TOS: "The Trouble with Tribbles". In his commentary for this episode on The Animated Series DVD, Gerrold states that the story for this episode was originally submitted for the third season of The Original Series, but third season producer Fred Freiberger rejected it. Freiberger disliked the comic tone of "The Trouble with Tribbles," and did not want to go down that road a second time.

from Memory Alpha.

This is pretty cool we get two commentaries from Gerrold about these 3 related Tribbles episodes (TOS, TAS, DS9) even though he only worked on 2. One in 2006 (TAS) and one recorded in 2009 (TOS).

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

^ Pity they're not including that one Jeopardy! episode where tribbles gradually covered the set.

 

[seigezunt]

what's the deal with the season one set on amazon? They say they aren't selling it themselves, but the reason is a little nebulous.

 

[Doug Otte]

what's the deal with the season one set on amazon? They say they aren't selling it themselves, but the reason is a little nebulous.

That is weird. I wonder if it's something to do w/ the idiots in the Amazon discussions. They're complaining about either:
1) the lossless audio is at a lower volume than other BDs/DVDs - so turn it up a bit! It's not enough of a difference to cause distortion.
2) audio dropouts at branching points - it's been well documented that some BD players (Samsung & LG come to mind, because I have both and have heard the "skips") have a hard time w/ branching discs.

Doug

 

[Grant]

First review is in.........

7.1 DTS Master Audio for the both the animated episode AND the DS9 episode !!!!!

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/movies.php?id=6281&show=review

 

[jefferiestubes8]

new 7.1 sound on extra episodes remastered vs. 5.1 sound on DVD

7.1 DTS Master Audio for the both the animated episode AND the DS9 episode

for your comparison:
"Star Trek: The Animated Series" DVD in 2006:

Presented in Dolby 5.1 it sounds quite good considering this is from a 33 year old mono soundtrack

http://trekmovie.com/2006/11/18/star-trek-the-animated-series-dvd-set-review/


from the November 21, 2006 "Star Trek: The Animated Series" DVD review:

the original mono mix and a new 5.1 Dolby mix. It came across very thin and hollow. Going to the original mono track afforded a richer, truer sound. And if you think the 5.1 will offer some semblance of surround sound, you would be incorrect.

http://www.dvdverdict.com/reviews/startrekanimatedseries.php


from the December 20, 2006 "Star Trek: The Animated Series" DVD review:

the DVD producers chose wisely when reworking the original mono for a 5.1 mix, creating a modest but effective recreation of the original sound field for today's expanded home theater landscape: dialogue is clear and clean in the center channel, while sound effects and score reverberate in the satellite channels.

http://dvd.ign.com/articles/751/751836p1.html

and the DS9 season 5 on DVD review:

The 5.1 mix does not disappoint. The majority of the track is front heavy, but there is a great sense of channel separation and increased dynamic range. Sound effects and dialogue are crystal clear, and the surrounds are put to good use for atmosphere and the occasional battle sequence. Not as dynamic as I would like (especially in the surrounds and LFE), but a great remix. The original 2.0 tracks are also included, but stick with the 5.1.

http://www.digitallyobsessed.com/displaylegacy.php?ID=5628

 

[KirkSpockTOSFan]

I can't wait for season 2 on blu ray. I will buy it on the day its out if its at Walmart which is where I work.