DS9 should get Remastered

Trekmaster555 · March 3 2008, 06:11 PM

the whole Deep Space nine series should get remastered.

M · March 3 2008, 06:16 PM

No, it shouldn't. Why do you think it should, if I may ask? I'm all for upgrading the picture and sound quality, but they shouldn't mess with the effects like they did with TOS-R. Aside from the usually very good FX work on DS9, I don't understand how changing the effects would improve the show story-wise. I for one watch DS9 because of the stories. Effects aren't that important to tell a story.

cwalrus2 · March 3 2008, 06:36 PM

I for one don't understand why they altered TOS. I like to see the episodes as they originally aired. There's just no reason to remaster DS9. Even when you compare the early seasons of DS9 to the early seasons of TNG, the FX hold up quite well.

misskim86 · March 3 2008, 06:54 PM

I think DS9's FX is great, I love that they used models and not CGI.

SAY NO TO CGI

-Brett- · March 4 2008, 03:05 AM

Why? The visual effects haven't aged that much.

I could see remastering an episode or two to eliminate stock footage (*cough*"WhatYouLeaveBehind"*cough*), but the entire series? Nope. No need for it.

Who_Trek · March 4 2008, 03:23 AM

I don't generally agree with the remastering... I don't think DS9 needs it.

Mr. Laser Beam · March 4 2008, 03:30 AM

Trekmaster555 wrote:

the whole Deep Space nine series should get remastered.

They don't really have a choice. If DS9 is ever to be aired in HD, the whole thing will have to be remastered. It's unavoidable. That's because DS9 (in addition to TNG and Voyager) was edited on videotape, which is also where all the effects were done. Since videotape is not airable in HD, all effects would have to be redone in order to make it so.

Even if they didn't do *updated* effects, they'd still have to do them all over again, even if they wanted to replicate the original FX exactly.

That being said: They should get rid of the "NX-74205" on the second Defiant.

Ghostface1701 · March 4 2008, 03:37 AM

This could be very expensive, as DS9 has some complicated VFX. Not just battle scenes, but things like Odo's morph will have to be redone as well. Hopefully, they'll have access to the original negatives to make this alot easier. Even then, this will very time consuming and costly.

I can't see DS9 or VOY getting the remastered treatment any time soon, especially as they don't have the same popularity and viewing figures as TOS & TNG.

Ghostface1701 · March 4 2008, 03:44 AM

misskim86 wrote:

I think DS9's FX is great, I love that they used models and not CGI.

SAY NO TO CGI

FYI: DS9 used CGI for ships as early as Season 3's Explorers. Without CGI, we wouldn't have had some of the impressive battle scenes we saw in later seasons.

Kaijufan · March 4 2008, 05:40 AM

I'm happy with DS9's effects and I don't really think they need to be remastered.
Of course DS9 isn't exactly the most popular Trek, and I doubt Paramount would make money on remastering DS9. If they decide to air DS9 in HD they will most likely just upscale the image.

Mr. Laser Beam · March 4 2008, 06:18 AM

Kaijufan wrote:

If they decide to air DS9 in HD they will most likely just upscale the image.

AFAIK, they can't do that.

Remember what I said about videotape.

Jack Bauer · March 4 2008, 08:31 AM

Babaganoosh wrote:

Kaijufan wrote:

If they decide to air DS9 in HD they will most likely just upscale the image.

AFAIK, they can't do that.

Remember what I said about videotape.

And if they did upscale it (which I don't think is possible) it would look extremely grainy. It would basically look like shit.

Admiral Buzzkill · March 4 2008, 09:49 AM

The fact that DS9 was assembled on videotape - like TNG and the other modern Treks - actually means that "remastering" for HD would be so hellaciously complicated that it will probably never be done.

With TOS, film originals of the episodes exist. With the modern Treks, all that exists on film are millions of original shots, pre-editing. Actually, to say that they still exist, much less could be transferred to HD and then edited to recreate the shows, is an optimistic assumption.

The only Trek we'll see in HD other than TOS is the final season of "Enterprise."

RTOlson · March 4 2008, 01:43 PM

Well, I think all of ENT is available in highdef (Wiki). The last season was shot digitally instead of more conventional methods.

I was pleased to see "Star Trek" get the remaster treatment, especially if it helps a new generation find the show. However, I concur that re-doing DS9 would be extremely difficult.

DS9forever · March 4 2008, 03:03 PM

I would watch TNG remastered if only for the appearance of DS9 in Birthright.

March 3 2008, 06:11 PM	#1
Trekmaster555 Ensign	DS9 should get Remastered the whole Deep Space nine series should get remastered.

March 3 2008, 06:16 PM	#2
M Vice Admiral	Re: DS9 should get Remastered No, it shouldn't. Why do you think it should, if I may ask? I'm all for upgrading the picture and sound quality, but they shouldn't mess with the effects like they did with TOS-R. Aside from the usually very good FX work on DS9, I don't understand how changing the effects would improve the show story-wise. I for one watch DS9 because of the stories. Effects aren't that important to tell a story. __________________ Bashir: »Out of all the stories you told me, which ones were true and which ones weren't?« Garak: »My dear doctor, they're all true.« Bashir: »Even the lies?« Garak: »Especially the lies.«

March 3 2008, 06:36 PM	#3
cwalrus2 Lieutenant Commander	Re: DS9 should get Remastered I for one don't understand why they altered TOS. I like to see the episodes as they originally aired. There's just no reason to remaster DS9. Even when you compare the early seasons of DS9 to the early seasons of TNG, the FX hold up quite well. __________________ "I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! - I DRINK IT UP!!!!"

March 3 2008, 06:54 PM	#4
misskim86 Rear Admiral Location: TX, USA	Re: DS9 should get Remastered I think DS9's FX is great, I love that they used models and not CGI. SAY NO TO CGI __________________ Last Christmas I gave you my heart but the very next day you gave it away This year to save me from tears I'll give it to someone special

March 4 2008, 03:05 AM	#5
-Brett- Rear Admiral	Re: DS9 should get Remastered Why? The visual effects haven't aged that much. I could see remastering an episode or two to eliminate stock footage (cough"WhatYouLeaveBehind"cough), but the entire series? Nope. No need for it.

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March 4 2008, 03:23 AM	#6
Who_Trek Commander Location: America (Live in Korea)	Re: DS9 should get Remastered I don't generally agree with the remastering... I don't think DS9 needs it. __________________ Nudist, Buddhist, and Trekkie ... What a wonderful life! My "other" board is ESanga: the Buddhist Community at: http://www.lioncity.net/buddhism/index.php (ID: Iljin)

March 4 2008, 03:37 AM	#8
Ghostface1701 Commander Location: Los Angeles, CA	Re: DS9 should get Remastered This could be very expensive, as DS9 has some complicated VFX. Not just battle scenes, but things like Odo's morph will have to be redone as well. Hopefully, they'll have access to the original negatives to make this alot easier. Even then, this will very time consuming and costly. I can't see DS9 or VOY getting the remastered treatment any time soon, especially as they don't have the same popularity and viewing figures as TOS & TNG.

March 4 2008, 05:40 AM	#10
Kaijufan Rear Admiral Location: Amana, Iowa	Re: DS9 should get Remastered I'm happy with DS9's effects and I don't really think they need to be remastered. Of course DS9 isn't exactly the most popular Trek, and I doubt Paramount would make money on remastering DS9. If they decide to air DS9 in HD they will most likely just upscale the image. __________________

March 4 2008, 09:49 AM	#13
Admiral Buzzkill The Man Location: Defying Gravity	Re: DS9 should get Remastered The fact that DS9 was assembled on videotape - like TNG and the other modern Treks - actually means that "remastering" for HD would be so hellaciously complicated that it will probably never be done. With TOS, film originals of the episodes exist. With the modern Treks, all that exists on film are millions of original shots, pre-editing. Actually, to say that they still exist, much less could be transferred to HD and then edited to recreate the shows, is an optimistic assumption. The only Trek we'll see in HD other than TOS is the final season of "Enterprise." __________________ I had steak and a loaded baked potato for dinner on Sunday. As a steak I enjoyed it a lot, but as macaroni and cheese I thought it was disappointing.

March 4 2008, 01:43 PM	#14
RTOlson Rear Admiral Location: Chico, Calif.	Re: DS9 should get Remastered Well, I think all of ENT is available in highdef (Wiki). The last season was shot digitally instead of more conventional methods. I was pleased to see "Star Trek" get the remaster treatment, especially if it helps a new generation find the show. However, I concur that re-doing DS9 would be extremely difficult. __________________ "Remember, George: no man is a failure who has friends." Clarence -- It's a Wonderful Life \| My blog

March 4 2008, 03:03 PM	#15
DS9forever Captain	Re: DS9 should get Remastered I would watch TNG remastered if only for the appearance of DS9 in Birthright.