Star Trek Retcons

[Hartzilla2007]

Okay I'm hoping somebody could explain this one to me.

In TNG's Time Squared the warp 10 barrier was established on screen for the first time. But in All Good Things the Enterprise was capable of warp 15. Then in VOY's Threshold the warp 10 barrier is back so could some one tell me what was going on there, because this has always buged me.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Okay I'm hoping somebody could explain this one to me.

In TNG's Time Squared the warp 10 barrier was established on screen for the first time. But in All Good Things the Enterprise was capable of warp 15. Then in VOY's Threshold the warp 10 barrier is back so could some one tell me what was going on there, because this has always buged me.

I always thought the warp scale was redone. Just like from TOS to TNG.

In TOS, it's simply a factor of taking a warp factor, cubing it, then multiplying the result times the speed of light. In TNG, the scale is totally different, approaching Warp 10 asymptotically. Not too much of a stretch to assume they could restructure the warp scale *again* some time later.

Then again, the entirety of AGT's "future" was an illusion created by Q, so what's the point?

 

[Hartzilla2007]

Okay I'm hoping somebody could explain this one to me.

In TNG's Time Squared the warp 10 barrier was established on screen for the first time. But in All Good Things the Enterprise was capable of warp 15. Then in VOY's Threshold the warp 10 barrier is back so could some one tell me what was going on there, because this has always buged me.

I always thought the warp scale was redone. Just like from TOS to TNG.

In TOS, it's simply a factor of taking a warp factor, cubing it, then multiplying the result times the speed of light. In TNG, the scale is totally different, approaching Warp 10 asymptotically. Not too much of a stretch to assume they could restructure the warp scale *again* some time later.

Then again, the entirety of AGT's "future" was an illusion created by Q, so what's the point?

Well considering that the All Good Things uniforms were used everytime the future was shown (DS9's the Visitor and VOY's Endgame) I wouldn't be to sure about that.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Then again, the entirety of AGT's "future" was an illusion created by Q, so what's the point?

Well considering that the All Good Things uniforms were used everytime the future was shown (DS9's the Visitor and VOY's Endgame) I wouldn't be to sure about that.

I would.

 

[someone74]

A lot of people seem worried that the new movie is outside of the official Star Trek continuity but I don't think anything like that exists. Star Trek's official continuity has changed plenty of times! The shows blatantly contradicted each other whenever they felt like it, but Trekkies seem to ignore it.

1) "Space Seed" refers to the Eugenics Wars as the last world war. Eugenics wars and World War III are used interchangably in Classic Trek. Then "Encounter at Farpoint" establishes a nuclear war in the 21st century and suddenly WWIII and the Eugenics Wars are different.

2) Early Classic Trek episodes refer to Earth ships, Earth bases, Earth outposts. The agency the Enterprise works for is the United Earth Space Probe Agency. Then in "Court Martial" UESPA becomes Starfleet and in "A Taste of Armageddon" Earth is replaced with Federation.

3) In "The Host" Trills were bumpy-headed aliens, the symbionts carried all of the personality and the Federation didn't know enough about them to know they were joined. In DS9 Trills are spotted, they've been in contact with the Federation since at least the 23rd century, their joined nature is well known and the personalities of host and symbiont blend. No effort is made to explain "The Host," which is apparently out of continuity.

Other good examples? Help me out here.

A lot of people seem worried that the new movie is outside of the official Star Trek continuity but I don't think anything like that exists. Star Trek's official continuity has changed plenty of times! The shows blatantly contradicted each other whenever they felt like it, but Trekkies seem to ignore it.

1) "Space Seed" refers to the Eugenics Wars as the last world war. Eugenics wars and World War III are used interchangably in Classic Trek. Then "Encounter at Farpoint" establishes a nuclear war in the 21st century and suddenly WWIII and the Eugenics Wars are different.

2) Early Classic Trek episodes refer to Earth ships, Earth bases, Earth outposts. The agency the Enterprise works for is the United Earth Space Probe Agency. Then in "Court Martial" UESPA becomes Starfleet and in "A Taste of Armageddon" Earth is replaced with Federation.

3) In "The Host" Trills were bumpy-headed aliens, the symbionts carried all of the personality and the Federation didn't know enough about them to know they were joined. In DS9 Trills are spotted, they've been in contact with the Federation since at least the 23rd century, their joined nature is well known and the personalities of host and symbiont blend. No effort is made to explain "The Host," which is apparently out of continuity.

Other good examples? Help me out here.

Also I think originally the Trill couldn't use transporters because it would kill the symbiont.

 

[Dukhat]

Holy 17-year thread revive, Batman!

 

[1001001]

Also I think originally the Trill couldn't use transporters because it would kill the symbiont.

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