Star Trek: Renegades

[doubleohfive]

The USS Archer looks like any other late-24th century ship. A cross between Voyager and the Equinox - but I'm pretty sure that's the point. They're the familiar Starfleet establishment that the Icarus and it's crew will be in sharp contrast with.

The Archer bridge set, though, looks pretty bad. I'm really hoping they can disguise it's limitations somehow. Some holograms floating above the consoles a la IDW's Star Trek Countdown comic would be awesome.

I respectfully disagree. I think their bridge is fine as is.

I respectfully disagree. I think their bridge is fine as is.

Not as something they're pitching to CBS.

For a fan film, the bridge set is pretty fine - but for a professional production that aims to be a series pilot it lacks a lot - especially the whole back area. There should be consoles, doors, display and all that - like any other Starfleet vessel has. I highly doubt that they will enhance any of that in post production. Maybe it´ll look better on film.

For a fan film, the bridge set is pretty fine - but for a professional production that aims to be a series pilot it lacks a lot - especially the whole back area. There should be consoles, doors, display and all that - like any other Starfleet vessel has. I highly doubt that they will enhance any of that in post production. Maybe it´ll look better on film.

Agreed. Some aspects of this look very professional, like make-up and some of the effects we've seen.

But, this bridge-set, or the uniforms..... Some of it looks downright terrible.

I think it's incredibly easy to sit in judgment of the set from just that one photo. If I were to make any kind of comment about it based on the photo alone, it would be that I wish they'd added a raised platform for the flooring behind the tactical horseshoe. As it is, the thing is pretty high but unless they've got six-foot tall actors, it's going to look quite awkward having someone stand behind it as is.

That said, it's entirely possible the people making Renegades will be able to make it look a lot better on screen when the film is done. For myself, I will wait to see the finished product before I make any kind of judgment or assessment of such aesthetics.

 

[DCR]

I admit that I don't like the look of the Starfleet uniforms they're doing, but that's personal taste, not a statement of production quality.

 

[doubleohfive]

The uniforms look fine. I just wish they'd taken the time to tailor them for the actors wearing them. I know that's not cheap (money or time-wise) but it makes a hell of a difference (visually) for something so trivial.

 

[Maurice]

Frankly, it looks which what it is: a blank squarish room into which three consoles were plunked.

 

[Tom]

It's a BTS set picture, it will look quite a bit different on film. Even the raw footage with out optical enhancements looks better than this set pic. I think most of you here know how sets look in real life and how they end up looking on film from your respective productions.

 

[Tom]

I respectfully disagree. I think their bridge is fine as is.

Not as something they're pitching to CBS.

The pitch is a proof of concept. If accepted, CBS would have to re-shoot the pilot anyways, using their studios, the proper trade unions and guilds, re-negotiated actor contracts, construction standards, possible minor tweaks to the storyline, etc.. etc.. They know we filmed this for under half million, they are not going to air it, 'as is' on a network, for the many legal reasons stated above.

Still, that said, we are doing the best quality we possibly can to try and make an impression and if CBS says no, we can give the public a great film.

With either option, the fans get something out of it, be it an ongoing series (obviously the better option ) , or an exciting film to watch.

 

[Barbreader]

 

[Maurice]

The pitch is a proof of concept. If accepted, CBS would have to re-shoot the pilot anyways, using their studios, the proper trade unions and guilds, re-negotiated actor contracts, construction standards, possible minor tweaks to the storyline, etc.. etc.. They know we filmed this for under half million, they are not going to air it, 'as is' on a network, for the many legal reasons stated above..

There are a dozen legal reasons for them to not touch it with a ten foot pole, and beyond that, the producers and writers don't have a Hollywood track record, which doesn't make them an attractive "package".

 

[ElimGarak.93-99]

I just read this on the Renegades website:

"The dawn of this new year brings exciting new developments for Renegades!

We are very pleased to announce that by February 10th, we will have a nearly completed film ready to show CBS should they decide to graciously consider and review the film!

At this stage, the film will be color-corrected, have the full music score, sound effects, etc. – all but a few very complicated effects shots. The VFX shots which are not completed will have animatics – simpler 3D-rendered effects shots in place of the finished ones. Our VFX department is working tirelessly to complete all the visual effects for the film. We have a grand total of 637 VFX shots we’re finalizing and polishing – that’s a huge number of effects, comparable to some of the biggest budget films in Hollywood. In comparison, the original Terminator and Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan barely had 100 VFX shots each! These effects are being done by industry professionals who are graciously volunteering their time for Renegades. We want to give them all the time they need to produce the best film and visuals possible.

Renegades has been a monumental undertaking, and we could not have done it without your generous support. It looks like a big budget feature-length film, with a huge ensemble cast that includes 61 actors, numerous new alien species, 26 different locations, incredible elaborate multiple sets (including several new ship designs), and a crew of 170 professionals and enthusiastic volunteers. All this with a budget that is .002 (1/4 of 1%) the amount of the JJ Abrams Trek films!

But… we know the question on all of your minds – when will I receive my download or DVD/Blu-Ray of Renegades? As much as we’d like to give you a definitive date at this point, that will all depend on CBS. Their response to our film will ultimately determine our final release dates. We are keeping our fingers crossed for good news, and we’ll pass on any developments as soon as we hear them.

This is the culmination of all our endeavors and one step closer to achieving our ultimate goal – bringing Star Trek back to its original episodic format!"

 

[MikeH92467]

I admire the hard work and entushiasm and really am looking forward to seeing the final product, but I can't shake the feeling that a lot of people involved with this project are kidding themselves. If I'm wrong .... GOOD!

 

[Tom]

Not sure why people think we are kidding ourselves, I have always been straight forward here. Yes, it is long shot for CBS to pick STR, we know the odds are low, but we choose to try anyways. Really, whats the big deal for Star trek fans if CBS says no, it it will be released to the public anyways, we designed it for both senarios. Eitherway, its a win/win for the fans.

Who else has gone thru the trouble of crafting a full film before the pitch? If anything, it creates awareness of how much fans want a new Trek series. Even if CBS says no, maybe they will help show them that there should be a another series at some point.

 

[mahler]

Not interested, however I wish it well.

 

[MikeH92467]

Hey if I'm wrong, I'll be applauding. I do think you're kidding yourselves that you will get any kind of serious interest, but to paraphrase something some smart person once said, "Nothing gets accomplished by reasonable people". By all means, keep going!

 

[doubleohfive]

Frankly right now I want a good fan film before I would want another series from a fan film.

I've no doubt that my optimism is justified on this project, but as always am also waiting to see the finished product before I make any judgment calls on Renegades.

 

[BillJ]

Hey if I'm wrong, I'll be applauding. I do think you're kidding yourselves that you will get any kind of serious interest, but to paraphrase something some smart person once said, "Nothing gets accomplished by reasonable people". By all means, keep going!

I think they should've left the whole CBS angle out of it until after they got a meeting with them.

 

[doubleohfive]

Hey if I'm wrong, I'll be applauding. I do think you're kidding yourselves that you will get any kind of serious interest, but to paraphrase something some smart person once said, "Nothing gets accomplished by reasonable people". By all means, keep going!

I think they should've left the whole CBS angle out of it until after they got a meeting with them.

That might have been the smarter way to go, yes.

 

[Tom Hendricks]

Hey if I'm wrong, I'll be applauding. I do think you're kidding yourselves that you will get any kind of serious interest, but to paraphrase something some smart person once said, "Nothing gets accomplished by reasonable people". By all means, keep going!

I think they should've left the whole CBS angle out of it until after they got a meeting with them.

That might have been the smarter way to go, yes.

I think they used it to enhance their Kickstarter campaign.

 

[MikeH92467]

Possibly, but the fact is they are trying to do something that hasn't really been done before (at least not this way as far as I know) and people who try to do something new leave themselves open to criticism and second-guessing. Any of us might have handled certain aspects of the situation differently, but hey, it's their show. So I'll just wish them success event though I have my doubts.

 

[Tom]

Axanar got a whopping 600k without mention of it being presented as a pilot. So I don't think that had much to do with it.

I think one of the main attractions with a project like Renegades and Axanar is seeing some professional actors (including former ST actors) in a Star Trek production. Even productions like Phase II have George Takei and Walter Koenig in 2 episodes and were very highly received.

There is nothing wrong with trying some out-of-the-box idea's. You will always have your supporters and detractors. But as they old line goes, "I would have rather tried and failed, than to never have tried at all".

 

[doubleohfive]

Any of us might have handled certain aspects of the situation differently, but hey, it's their show. So I'll just wish them success event though I have my doubts.

Agreed. This sentiment is entirely where we should all be focusing our interest.