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Star Trek Q&A -- Appreciation Thread ****SPOILERS*****

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I finished Q&A this afternoon, and I really really liked it. I've been a huge fan of Q since I first saw him, and I really liked the way that KRAD was able to tie all of his appearances together into one big plot. When I first heard about that aspect of the book I was kind of afraid that it might end up being some weird rediculous thing that was done just for the hell of it, but I realize now that I should have known better than to doubt KRAD, because it was not at all convoluted and it made perfect sense. I also really liked the cameos, especially the ones with familar characters like Riker, Klag and Donatra, they were really fun, and helped to show just how huge of an impact Their actions were having on the universe. I also really liked the introduction of the new characters, Kadohata and Leybenzon, although I must admit that I am alittle sad to know that Peter David wasn't able to take these characterizations into account when he was writting Before Dishonor. I think overall I would give it a 9/1o. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
 
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I've just picked up a copy of this book from the library. I treat borrowing books as a "test drive" - if I like them, I buy them, if not, nothing lost. When you have three full bookcases, it's time to introduce a little bit of restraint... :)

I'm about half-way through (page 208, to be precise), and offer the following thoughts. I'd be interested to go back through the thread and find out how many share the same views, but will wait until I finish the book to avoid spoilers...


- Firstly, I'll note that the book has been printed very badly. Some pages are saturated with ink, others have been apparently caught in a printer and have all sorts of creases in them. Lucky I didn't order it myself.

- The blurb was...different. I'm not entirely sold on it, but it was something unique and interesting, which I suppose is valuable when you are trying to attract readers.

- I loved the prologue. I'm a fan of Douglas Adams' writing, and it reminded me very much of his work.

- I have mixed feelings on some of the coverage of Q's canon. On one hand, it's a good idea to offer some rationale for Q's ostensibly random appearances, and the reasons given were quite clever. However, I have the feeling that in such a short book, a fair bit of it is spent covering old ground. I doubt that would hold up to some sort of analysis of how many pages it actually takes, but it's a bit jarring to me nonetheless.

- Oddly, I'm not all that compelled by the main plot of the rifts, yet I'm still enjoying the book thanks to the dialogue and characters. I suppose after struggling through the Millennium books, I'm a little worn out with universe-ending stories...

- Not sure what to think of the new characters yet. Leybenzon is interesting, as I've known people like that myself, but T'Lana has made no impression on me [albeit from little material thus far] and Kadohata annoys me - aside from her use of the word "wanker", which made me smile. It would help if she followed a decent sport like cricket, though... :p

- I do like the references to Q-Squared and Q-in-Law, subtle enough to not be out of place to someone unfamiliar with them and obvious to those who are.

- I have no idea what the references to the new encounter with the Borg are - at a guess, does this somehow link to PAD's new book?

- Has a novel ever featured the words "concomitant" and "gotten" in successive chapters? ;)

Now back to it... :)
 
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Glad you're enjoying it so far....


- Firstly, I'll note that the book has been printed very badly. Some pages are saturated with ink, others have been apparently caught in a printer and have all sorts of creases in them. Lucky I didn't order it myself.
Huh. Your library must've gotten a bad copy, as none of my copies have that problem, nor has anybody else reported it. Sometimes, however, a run gets messed up...


- I loved the prologue. I'm a fan of Douglas Adams' writing, and it reminded me very much of his work.
Hee. Thanks!


- I have mixed feelings on some of the coverage of Q's canon. On one hand, it's a good idea to offer some rationale for Q's ostensibly random appearances, and the reasons given were quite clever. However, I have the feeling that in such a short book, a fair bit of it is spent covering old ground. I doubt that would hold up to some sort of analysis of how many pages it actually takes, but it's a bit jarring to me nonetheless.
There have been roughly 28 full seasons' worth of televised Star Trek (the animated series making up for the shortfall of TNG season 2 and DS9 and VOY's respective season 1s), plus ten movies, the most recent of which aired two years ago and most of which aired a lot longer ago than that. It's folly to assume that everyone reading is going to remember every single detail of every one of those episodes, and in this particular instance, I was putting a twist on what we already knew.

It's always a balancing act, trying to figure out how much exposition is required. The next person to get it perfectly right will also be the first...


- Oddly, I'm not all that compelled by the main plot of the rifts, yet I'm still enjoying the book thanks to the dialogue and characters. I suppose after struggling through the Millennium books, I'm a little worn out with universe-ending stories...
Thanks. The point of those interludes was to show the greater Trek universe. I was also thinking of this as an anniversary book as much as anything, and wanted the hits to other characters who guest-starred on TNG (Klag, Donatra, Shelby), to the departed cast members on Titan, and to the 24th-century spinoffs (the bits in the Gamma and Delta Quadrants).


- Not sure what to think of the new characters yet. Leybenzon is interesting, as I've known people like that myself, but T'Lana has made no impression on me [albeit from little material thus far] and Kadohata annoys me - aside from her use of the word "wanker", which made me smile. It would help if she followed a decent sport like cricket, though... :p
I'd rather she followed a sport that's, y'know, comprehensible. :p ;) :lol:


- I do like the references to Q-Squared and Q-in-Law, subtle enough to not be out of place to someone unfamiliar with them and obvious to those who are.
Uhm, those weren't the only references. I managed to sneak in references to pretty much every Q story in some form or other -- not just those two, but also I, Q, the Q-Continuum trilogy, String Theory: Evolution, "Into the Queue" in What Lay Beyond, "'Q'uandary" in No Limits, and Missing in Action.


- I have no idea what the references to the new encounter with the Borg are - at a guess, does this somehow link to PAD's new book?
Er, no, they're references to the previous TNG book, Resistance by J.M. Dillard. Peter's book follows from Q&A. (Resistance, BTW, is where T'Lana debuted.)


- Has a novel ever featured the words "concomitant" and "gotten" in successive chapters? ;)
Probably another one of mine... :guffaw:
 
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^^^The new Borg encounter mentioned in Q&A happened in J.M. Dillard's Resistance, the first TNG novel set post-Nemesis. The chronological order of these books is Resistance, then Q&A, then PAD's Before Dishonor, which also features the Borg and expands on what happened to them in Resistance.
 
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Ah, thank you both. That's the problem with being reliant on my library to get books in. They do a terrific job, but you can't get them all.

There have been roughly 28 full seasons' worth of televised Star Trek (the animated series making up for the shortfall of TNG season 2 and DS9 and VOY's respective season 1s), plus ten movies, the most recent of which aired two years ago and most of which aired a lot longer ago than that. It's folly to assume that everyone reading is going to remember every single detail of every one of those episodes, and in this particular instance, I was putting a twist on what we already knew.

It's always a balancing act, trying to figure out how much exposition is required. The next person to get it perfectly right will also be the first...

That's certainly a fair point. If you aim your writing at readers who know all the backstory, it's rather limiting, but it must be hard to work it in without it seeming out of place.

PAD seemed to try to avoid alienating new readers with at least some exposition in each New Frontier novel, and got to the point where a character would awkwardly blurt out a reference to past events, and get odd looks from the others. :D

As long as the author adds some original perspective and insight rather than just citing canon, and as I said, it was clever, I can't complain.

Uhm, those weren't the only references. I managed to sneak in references to pretty much every Q story in some form or other -- not just those two, but also I, Q, the Q-Continuum trilogy, String Theory: Evolution, "Into the Queue" in What Lay Beyond, "'Q'uandary" in No Limits, and Missing in Action.

A perfect example of references not being out of place to those unfamiliar with them - I've not read several of those, yet didn't notice any particularly jarring asides. Perhaps this will be like Q-Squared, where I can go back and read it later and pick up on so many things I originally missed. That's certainly the sign of a good book [well, or an inattentive reader...].
 
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Of course, I could have just read the Historian's Note, and I wouldn't have needed to ask a stupid question... :D

At any rate, I'm finished and will buy a copy at Borders today. I got all sorts of odd looks on a train last night when I laughed out loud at Q's final line to Picard. Any book that can make me laugh after a long day's work, while standing on a packed peak-hour train, is doing something right.

I was initially a little concerned that it was so heavily based on TNG episodes, but after reading that it was intended as an anniversary novel, that makes sense. I wish more books had a foreword or afterword, as they help explain the context of the writing.

The best thing about the book is that it's just...fun. I've been increasingly annoyed at the darker tone of recent Trek books. Yes, it opens more dramatic potential, but for me at least, it's just not what I read Trek books for.

I particularly loved the alternate ships Picard was on. Just one thing confused me though - how the heck is the mirror universe "by far the least pleasant"...compared to one in which Wesley is Picard's Captain! :D

This is precisely the sort of novel I want to read, and it's one I highly recommend to anyone who hasn't read it yet.
 
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^ Thanks so much! Glad you found it so enjoyable.

And I can assure you, it was also fun to write, mainly because of Q. As I said in the afterword, what set Q apart from the umpty billion other higher beings in the Trek universe is that he's so gleefully obnoxious. That makes him a great deal of fun to pen dialogue for....

BTW, the new issue of Starburst (which has the old Enterprise and the words "STAR TREK" in big letters on the cover) has a nice enough review of Q & A by Anthony Brown. He also liked Q's final line to Picard, which I gotta say, I'm quite proud of. :D
 
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I really enjoyed "Q & A!" I read it in two days in fact, a personal best, and I came away thinking that was just fun. The new crewmembers where good, especially Randy :lol:, and T'Lana wasn't the least bit annoying.

I can't really express what this book made me feel. I discovered Star Trek as a whole through TNG and while DS9 is my favorite of the shows, TNG was my first love if you will. (gawd, how sappy does that sound)

I hate to use a BermanBragaism, but it felt like a 'love letter to the fans,' but more specifically to me personally. I don't know, that's just how it made me feel.

I can't say you've ever disappointed me KRAD, but "Q & A" just might be your best work, best Star Trek work anyway.

Thank You Keith.

ncc71877 :bolian:
 
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^ Wow. Thank you so much for the kind words. After a day slogging through an irritating proofreading job, coming online to this cheered me right up. :)
 
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KRAD said:
- I do like the references to Q-Squared and Q-in-Law, subtle enough to not be out of place to someone unfamiliar with them and obvious to those who are.
Uhm, those weren't the only references. I managed to sneak in references to pretty much every Q story in some form or other -- not just those two, but also I, Q, the Q-Continuum trilogy, String Theory: Evolution, "Into the Queue" in What Lay Beyond, "'Q'uandary" in No Limits, and Missing in Action.
What, you didn't squeeze in references to any of Q's appearances in the comics? ;)
 
Roman Reviews "Q&A"

I finished Q&A the other week, but hadn’t been able to sit down and write a review until now for various, term-paperish reasons. I’ll preface everything by saying that I thought it was very fun and enjoyable, overall, and by far and away the best of the post-NEM TNG novels to have come out. It astonishes that despite how wild and large-scale this story was, the story was so much tighter. Maybe it’s because KRAD is both writer and editor, but Q&A was a welcome read after the insipidness of Death in Winter and the bumpy plot of Resistance.

I have to say that the beginning of the book rubbed me a bit the wrong way. The powerful callous super-entities shtick has been done before (the Q themselves, for instance), particular in Peter David’s books (there’s a notable resemblance to I, Q, particularly the boredom bit), and these are about as all-powerful and supremely callous as one gets. I couldn’t help but feel that universal genocide was being treated in too flippant and off-handed a manner; not just by ‘Them’ themselves (or…whatever), but by the fact that the book itself is rather light-hearted despite the stakes. Then there was the notion that all of Q’s appearances were linked, as part of a grand plan to prepare humanity to meet Them, which also made me squeaky because Q has always been presented as a chaotic (if instructive) force, and I worried that lacing the madness with method might distract from that endearingly capricious Q-ness we saw on the show.

Having finished the book, I must say… well, that I still find all of the above a tad off-putting. ‘They’ remain irredeemably, mind-bogglingly monstrous. Q comes off better, since his grand plan is allowed to seem roguish and manipulative before authorities like the Continuum and Them, preserving his trickster figure and even a certain aura of randomness about him, although I don’t much care for the impact in has on Q’s canonical appearances in retrospect, robbing them of some of their apparent spontaneity and unpredictability. But, unlike some books were an iffy premise just brings everything down with it (c.f. “Legacy of the Force”), the execution in Q&A is just so well done that it essentially overwhelms any larger-pictures issues when reading it; the book itself just such a thrill to read, engaging and entertaining, that my problem with the premise(s) would only, were I the type to rate books on a scale, knock it down to four stars out of five instead of the full score.

As is often the case with your books, Keith, I find it hard to identify specifically what I find so amenable about your style; it’s just a generalized good vibes arising from the synergy of the whole. But some points worth nothing: characterization is excellent, always on the ball—so much so that even in the interludes where characters identified only as Q are chatting to each other, I pretty much always knew which canonical Q was being referred to. Inside the ship, same thing: good to see Worf confident and in-charge, an exercising his own particular command style. Another Picard and Crusher breakfast scene illustrating their genteel kind of love and just generally making you (the reader) happy that they’re happy. I liked that Q kept referring to past events happening ‘moments’ ago. Skipping around the galaxy to show how widespread the phenomenon was is a good touch, and stylistically I think the shifts help prepare the reader for the quick-changing realities later on (although I thought the final chapter, going over all the realities as readjusted, was needlessly long: once the principle of had been established with the Titan, the other scenes could have been briefer; as it was, I glossed over a lot of what was repeated from earlier chapters). The multiplicity of Enterprises was totally epic, combining two favourite episodes of mine, far and away amongst the best sequences I’ve read in any Trek book. That was the real climax for me. Particularly cool is how that sequence managed to be fast-paced while still giving us a depth of insight into these various realities in so little space (here, again, the sharp characterization shines through). And, hey, who wouldn’t want to see a grown up Kirsten Durst in a Starfleet uniform, yeah?

One thing I didn’t get, however, and perhaps this was explained in the book but I simply overlooked it: if the Q knew about Them, about the Final World and what it would take to save the universe (by the way—wouldn’t entropy take millions of years to destroy a universe? The description made it seem like it was over in an instant)… then why did the Q have to groom lower life-forms like humans to present to Them, instead of just going before Them themselves (that is to say, have the universe judged on the merit of Q himself rather than Picard… dang these pronouns be confusing). It seems like Q was acting as a kind of advocate for life in this universe, but since (the book says) the Q would have been destroyed along with the universe, why was Q reduced to the status of friendly party rather than a candidate for consideration?

I should probably write a quick note on the new characters: they’re basically alright. Sorry about the lack of enthusiasm, but we’ve had two ‘introductory’ books into the TNG Relaunch so far, and it seems like the replacement cast just isn’t making anywhere the impact characters in the Deep Space Nine Relaunch or Titan are. Granted, they’re not Astall, for which I’m immensely grateful, but they’re not really exciting, either. Perhaps that’s editorial intent, to keep the focus on ‘our’ characters as opposed to the approaches taken in other series, and I suppose recent discussions suggests there is a certain wisdom to diversifying the line… but I really do prefer the large and vibrant casts of DS9R and Titan. The E-E, in contrast, seems cold and empty. Speaking of which, I’m having a hard time getting a read on T’Lana and I’m not sold on this semi-attraction thing she has going on with Worf (opposites might attract—see Ro and Quark—but tension doesn’t equal chemistry). Kadohata is basically nothing special, though perhaps that was the point—an average person who gets by on competency and hard work. Leybenzon, I don’t like, but there was pretty much no way I ever would: I’ve always loathed the ‘drill instructor’ personality type. People who can’t distinguish insult and humiliation from encouragement always make me feel more like going Red Hot Chili Peppers on their ass than listening to anything they have to say (let alone following orders), but I suppose one doesn’t actually have to like a character for them to be a good character, and his underlings seem to like him. I’ll have to see how they develop as the series progresses and maybe I’ll warm to them.

One more thing—I believe I meant to raise this in my review of Resistance and forgot among all the other things, but please, please, please, please change the idiotic name of the crew lounge. I mean, seriously: “The Happy Bottom Riding Club”? I don’t care what kind of history the name has, it’s just plain ridiculous, and it throws me out of the story every time it crops up. Let’s have it be destroyed in an upcoming novel and replaced with something that doesn’t sound like a Japanese brothel, shall we? Please?

So, [Roy Calhoun]in conclusion, and in summary[/Roy Calhoun], the TNG Relaunch finally picks up with the outstanding Q&A, and with PAD writing the next one hopefully it’ll stay up. Actually, Before Dishonour wasn’t out when I ordered my mega-package of Trek books, so that’s it for the TNG Relaunch for me for a bit… although now that the currencies have equalized, I’ll probably just pick it up in stores whenever I see it. Next in the pile: Star Trek: William Shatner.

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman
 
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Trent Roman said:
One more thing—I believe I meant to raise this in my review of Resistance and forgot among all the other things, but please, please, please, please change the idiotic name of the crew lounge. I mean, seriously: “The Happy Bottom Riding Club”? I don’t care what kind of history the name has, it’s just plain ridiculous, and it throws me out of the story every time it crops up. Let’s have it be destroyed in an upcoming novel and replaced with something that doesn’t sound like a Japanese brothel, shall we? Please?

I think you'll like T'lana's musings on the name of the lounge in "Before Dishonor."

I think it's a little ungainly, myself. Imagine saying it in casual conversation. "Hey, the guys from phaser control are getting together at the Happy Bottom Riding Club, want to come along?" "Yeah, we met at a party in the Happy Bottom Riding Club, and it was love at first sight." The place needs a diminutive. The Ride, Chaps, HB's, even The Club would work.

Also, it surprised me that it was supposed to be in a location comparable to Ten-Forward. Just because of the name doing a round of free association in my mind, I assumed it was literally at the ass-end of the ship: Base of the fantail, a couple of decks above the tractor beam and the photon torpedo launchers.
 
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Trent Roman said:
Let’s have it be destroyed in an upcoming novel and replaced with something that doesn’t sound like a Japanese brothel, shall we? Please?
What, you have something against Japanese brothels??
 
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^ Yes. They have silly names. :angel:

At least go the full nine yards and call it "The Happy :censored: :censored:ing Club."

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman
 
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Trent, thanks very much for the thoughtful review!

Q said at one point that They wouldn't accept a higher being as a representative of the universe -- that was why Q didn't want to give Picard the power of the Q, and instead chose to give it to Riker ("Hide and Q"). It had to be a "regular" member of that particular universe. Sorry if that wasn't clear -- that's on me.


As is often the case with your books, Keith, I find it hard to identify specifically what I find so amenable about your style; it’s just a generalized good vibes arising from the synergy of the whole.
I gotta say, this just made my day. Thank you for this. :)
 
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