Spoilers Star Trek: Prey Trilogy - general discussion thread

[JJMiller]

You know, I kind of like it. Anyway, regarding the other Klingon on the cover, I noticed his ridges are similar to Worf's, Kurn's and Alexander's. Another family member from the House of Mogh? Dare I guess Mogh himself?

That would be fun -- but it's the new character, Korgh. I don't have a lot of input in my role but I did request Korgh and Worf for the third book (as well as birds-of-prey on every cover). Doug Drexler did all three covers.

I'm happy to hear about Cross Cult and Prey, as I had conversations with the Prometheus team to establish some story ties here and there.

Getting a slew of interviews in the pipeline and podcasts scheduled; not long now!

 

[JD]

STO has already been able to directly portray the Kelvin timeline (in a universe-hopping mission of the Temporal Cold War). If Cryptic Studios can do that, then I hope Pocket can negotiate the right to reference one bloody scene from the 2009 Star Trek film.

It does seem a bit strange that of the three major narrative tie-ins, comics, books, and games that the books would be singled out as the only one not allowed to refer to the Kelvin timeline films.

 

[ronny]

Wait, what? There can't be any mention of Romulas being destroyed in the books? Yeah, I know they are not supposed to have stories with the new crew but they can't even bring up things that happened in the prime universe? Has this been confirmed? I was looking forward to how that was going to affect the Typhon Pact storyline.

 

[Sto-Vo-Kory]

That would be fun -- but it's the new character, Korgh. I don't have a lot of input in my role but I did request Korgh and Worf for the third book (as well as birds-of-prey on every cover). Doug Drexler did all three covers.

I'm happy to hear about Cross Cult and Prey, as I had conversations with the Prometheus team to establish some story ties here and there.

Getting a slew of interviews in the pipeline and podcasts scheduled; not long now!

OT: @JJMiller I just wanted to say that was a great question you asked on Ken Levine's blog the other day.

 

[Christopher]

It does seem a bit strange that of the three major narrative tie-ins, comics, books, and games that the books would be singled out as the only one not allowed to refer to the Kelvin timeline films.

As I said in another thread, what I've heard is that Bad Robot likes to maintain close control over its licensed tie-ins and keep them tightly coordinated. So I suspect the difference is that it's easier to do that with an independent continuity like the comics, or something just starting out like the games, than with something like Pocket Trek, which is a distinct, pre-existing continuity with a lot of different creators and a less top-down approach. Another factor might be that the comics and games are based in California while Pocket is in New York, though you'd think that would be less of in issue in the Internet age.

 

[F. King Daniel]

We've got the cover to the last Prey book

The 90's called, they want their CG back.

 

[The Wormhole]

Yeah, I know they are not supposed to have stories with the new crew but they can't even bring up things that happened in the prime universe? Has this been confirmed?

Yes, this has been confirmed by authors who work with Pocket books who post on this very forum a number of times.

 

[JJMiller]

OT: @JJMiller I just wanted to say that was a great question you asked on Ken Levine's blog the other day.

Hey, thanks. I actually invoked Trek later in that thread -- in that viewers probably had an easier time accepting, nearly two decades on, that Lilith had a never-mentioned half-brother -- as opposed to Spock, where the same thing happens. I think the difference is she was an occasional character and we never learned anything about her father, whereas Spock was ... Spock.

That topic was very much on my mind this year as I needed to make sure I had the lineages of the Klingon families I was dealing with absolutely down. No mentioning that someone was an only child only to have a sibling turn up 600 pages later!

 

[Vnix]

Just pre-ordered the series, can't wait to get them!

 

[JJMiller]

Thanks!

And while I can't contribute much to the Romulan question, I can say that the timeline moves right along in PREY -- in fact, it moves in real-time with the release schedule for the trilogy. Each novel represents the events of roughly one month in 2386.

 

[USS Firefly]

JJMiller I am reading Kenobi, so far pretty good.
Will there be a sequel?
What about Kenobi meets the Enterprise-E in Romulan space in the year 2388?

 

[Jinn]

What about Kenobi meets the Enterprise-E in Romulan space in the year 2388?

That sounds like one hell of a legal mess.

 

[Vnix]

That sounds like one hell of a legal mess.

It's quite simple, permission is required from all IP-holders

 

[JJMiller]

As I mentioned in my notes on the book at the time, I certainly have ideas for further Kenobi stories -- but, of course, it's Legends, so it's not in the Story Group canon. But while my New Dawn book was already drawing on Legends elements (locations, chemical compounds, etc.) from the start, Tim Zahn's 2017 Thrawn novel announcement goes further by drawing upon a Legends character. As to whether opportunities will exist for characters from other Legends stories, only time will tell. We have seen other Tatooine stories in the new Marvel comics, so I guess anything's possible.

People are always asking for my compare-and-contrast observations, so I will say (and this is not just playing to the audience here) that my research during Prey convinced me that the sheer volume of detail known about Klingons outweighs that for any nonhuman species I've encountered in any SF media franchise. I think Vulcans might have made it a close race at one point, but not now. I'd be interested to hear what others think on that; it's good panel fodder.

 

[JJMiller]

It's quite simple, permission is required from all IP-holders

Lucasfilm has historically been reluctant to cross over characters in stories, so there's very little out there that's equivalent with, say, Star Trek/X-Men. Indiana Jones crossed over in Star Wars Tales, but that was a one-off in an imaginary-story anthology -- and obviously there were minimal licensing issues.

 

[Vnix]

Lucasfilm has historically been reluctant to cross over characters in stories, so there's very little out there that's equivalent with, say, Star Trek/X-Men. Indiana Jones crossed over in Star Wars Tales, but that was a one-off in an imaginary-story anthology -- and obviously there were minimal licensing issues.

I understand that it is practically impossible, legally however all that is required is permission in the form of a licensing agreement from the parties with IP you plan on using.

All in all, I think a good crossover between Star Wars and Star Trek can work, so long as all sides are portrayed in a fair manner and without wanking on either side. I'd buy and read it.

 

[JD]

People are always asking for my compare-and-contrast observations, so I will say (and this is not just playing to the audience here) that my research during Prey convinced me that the sheer volume of detail known about Klingons outweighs that for any nonhuman species I've encountered in any SF media franchise. I think Vulcans might have made it a close race at one point, but not now. I'd be interested to hear what others think on that; it's good panel fodder.

If they're not, then they're pretty close. I actually did a project on Klingons for an anthropology class back when I was in college, and it really was amazing just how much detailed information there was on them. We had to touch on all of the major aspects of the culture we chose, and there wasn't a single thing I needed that wasn't on Memory Alpha.
The project was actually a bit hit, and I even had a classmate ask me to make her a copy for a Trekkie family member.

 

[Idran]

Any chance you still have that project? Because now I'm curious too.

 

[Vnix]

haha, yea, it should be uploaded here!

 

[DS9forever]

Sword of Kahless on the cover?