He was probably in command of the USS Hubris an Ego class starship :-D
Spoilers Star Trek Picard Season 2 Hopes and Predictions
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Quite so. And possibly more than one ship too. I recall him say to Riker in a season 2 episode (when Riker went on the Klingon exchange programme) that Picard had gone through reassignments dozens of times. He was probably exaggerating, but since the only ships he served on prior to 2355 were the Reliant and the Stargazer, it makes sense that there were a number of others before he got given the Enterprise.
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While novels are not considered canon, I nevertheless highly recommend The Buried Age by @Christopher L Bennett.
https://www.amazon.com/Buried-Age-Star-Trek-Generation/dp/1416537392
If there is a second season, which is partly dependent on how bad the economy becomes and the willingness of CBS to fork over tens of millions to make the show in such an economy, I would hope the people who write and produce this show come up with a show which has less filler and more substance and gets to the relevant plot points quicker. No more meandering.
Thank you. In fact I have read this. One of the few Star Trek novels I've read. I quite enjoyed it.
This sort of overlaps what a few others have been seeing and I've borrowed some of my own comments from another thread as they are definitely relevant here. I would hope that they would use at least the first episode of S2 (maybe the first couple if you include some sub-plots with the rest of the Scooby gang from La Sirena) to wrap up a few loose ends, even if some of it (or even quite a bit of it) occurs off-stage:
Picard needs to go back to the Chateau, meet up with Laris and Zhaban (and maybe drag them along this time, at least for some of the season);
Jurati needs some sort of due judicial process over the death of Maddox, even if the official outcome turns out to be that she legitimately gets off by virtue of whatever Oh did to her — presumably on the basis of some sort of forensic mind-meld to establish what actually happened (a role for Tuvok perhaps?! He could still be on active duty and he wouldn't be a bad choice for cleaning up the mess at the Starfleet Security directorate either...);
Picard needs to go back to SFHQ and be officially exonerated and re-instated, even if he then promptly re-retires (!)
— easiest opportunity ever to gather a few TNG and other relevant alumni in Clancy’s office. It would be nice to see Rios and Musiker get some official Starfleet recognition here too, after all that they have been through. Again, re-instatement and acknowledgement would be entirely appropriate, even if both then officially retire from active duty.
there needs to be at least *some* reference to the in-house clear-out that Starfleet had to do in the fallout from all this, especially in relation to public explanations about Mars, the Utopia Planitia attacks and the Synth Ban — and the subsequent rescinding of the ban, or perhaps final confirmation of this if the initial response at the end of S1 was actually only a temporary lifting of the Ban;
just as with Family after The Best of Both Worlds, Part 2, Picard needs to resolve his personal fallout from all of this — at the Chateau? — with Beverley? — back to Nepenthe with Will and Deanna? — The Rikers visit him at the Chateau...?
What they then go on to do for the rest of the season (and more than ten episodes would be good, even if it's twelve or fourteen) is something I'm happy to be surprised by. There will inevitably be fallout within the Federation from all this but it would be nice to see them develop some new, interesting and different story arcs; they can't spend the whole season tying-up loose ends from the first season. If they're looking for a basis for new adventures with an episodic arc, it would be nice to see some tie-in to, say, Picard's love of archaeology and the potential for him to want to investigate the links to earlier civilisations (Chabon hinted at the T'kon from the TNG episode The Last Outpost) and the creation of the Admonition -- and what it really means. Similarly, there have to be threads from The Chase that they could pick up too. It would be an interesting theme to see if Picard can find trends from the past that inform and develop understanding of the present and better plans for the future.
If they do choose to do things like bring back Oh as a main antagonist, I would hope that they leave all that until the second half of the season and allow themselves the space to do something else first. There's certainly scope and a follow-up to The Chase could lend itself to this. Might be interesting to learn a bit more about the more moderate end of the surviving Romulan culture and how, if at all, it fits into the potential for reunification with the Vulcans.
It would be nice to see Starfleet used judiciously through the second season -- not ignored or side-lined but woven into the thread of the story without being over-the-top. I'm sure there will inevitably be guest spots and storylines but I hope they manage to do them sensibly without too much glaring "small universe" to the stories.
Picard needs to go back to the Chateau, meet up with Laris and Zhaban (and maybe drag them along this time, at least for some of the season);
Jurati needs some sort of due judicial process over the death of Maddox, even if the official outcome turns out to be that she legitimately gets off by virtue of whatever Oh did to her — presumably on the basis of some sort of forensic mind-meld to establish what actually happened (a role for Tuvok perhaps?! He could still be on active duty and he wouldn't be a bad choice for cleaning up the mess at the Starfleet Security directorate either...);
Picard needs to go back to SFHQ and be officially exonerated and re-instated, even if he then promptly re-retires (!)
— easiest opportunity ever to gather a few TNG and other relevant alumni in Clancy’s office. It would be nice to see Rios and Musiker get some official Starfleet recognition here too, after all that they have been through. Again, re-instatement and acknowledgement would be entirely appropriate, even if both then officially retire from active duty.
there needs to be at least *some* reference to the in-house clear-out that Starfleet had to do in the fallout from all this, especially in relation to public explanations about Mars, the Utopia Planitia attacks and the Synth Ban — and the subsequent rescinding of the ban, or perhaps final confirmation of this if the initial response at the end of S1 was actually only a temporary lifting of the Ban;
just as with Family after The Best of Both Worlds, Part 2, Picard needs to resolve his personal fallout from all of this — at the Chateau? — with Beverley? — back to Nepenthe with Will and Deanna? — The Rikers visit him at the Chateau...?
What they then go on to do for the rest of the season (and more than ten episodes would be good, even if it's twelve or fourteen) is something I'm happy to be surprised by. There will inevitably be fallout within the Federation from all this but it would be nice to see them develop some new, interesting and different story arcs; they can't spend the whole season tying-up loose ends from the first season. If they're looking for a basis for new adventures with an episodic arc, it would be nice to see some tie-in to, say, Picard's love of archaeology and the potential for him to want to investigate the links to earlier civilisations (Chabon hinted at the T'kon from the TNG episode The Last Outpost) and the creation of the Admonition -- and what it really means. Similarly, there have to be threads from The Chase that they could pick up too. It would be an interesting theme to see if Picard can find trends from the past that inform and develop understanding of the present and better plans for the future.
If they do choose to do things like bring back Oh as a main antagonist, I would hope that they leave all that until the second half of the season and allow themselves the space to do something else first. There's certainly scope and a follow-up to The Chase could lend itself to this. Might be interesting to learn a bit more about the more moderate end of the surviving Romulan culture and how, if at all, it fits into the potential for reunification with the Vulcans.
It would be nice to see Starfleet used judiciously through the second season -- not ignored or side-lined but woven into the thread of the story without being over-the-top. I'm sure there will inevitably be guest spots and storylines but I hope they manage to do them sensibly without too much glaring "small universe" to the stories.
The movie industry was one of the few that did very well through the Great Depression IIRC. People have a need for escapism in bad times.
Trekmovie has posted excerpts of a new interview with Patrick Stewart mentioning that season 2 of Picard won't be featuring a pandemic storyline. Saying it's too scary what we're all going through right now. And wants something more upbeat storylines for the characters
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I think they will address that. Doing so will inevitably lead into politics with the Romulan Free State, and why the Romulan Star Empire before it was still considered an enemy of the Federation - despite thawing relations at the end of Nemesis - to the point member worlds threatened to pull out of the UFP if collaborations with the RSE did not cease prior to the destruction of Utopia Planitia shipyards.
Spock in ST ‘09 did say that the Romulan supernova threatened the galaxy. And the Countdown comics (which has to be semi-canon in some manner for the sake of continuity with ST ‘09’s story) did suggest that the supernova would reach Vulcan and Earth; it was a threat to both major powers, and would have greatly upset the balance of power in the Alpha Quadrant. And there are a lot of planets that would have been put in jeopardy in both Federation and Romulan space, not just Romulus, meaning billions of lives had to be relocated. So, there’s no reason to believe Spock would lie about that; its a scary situation not just as an event, but in regards as to what happens after if it had been as big as a disaster it could have been. And the destruction of Utopia Planitia shipyards only exacerbated nature of the crisis.
The fourteen member worlds may have even had a point, if the Federation was also busy trying to evacuate its own citizens away from the planets threatened by the supernova, meaning they were stretched to their limits. Although it sounds essentially like an isolationist Federation First movement. And revelations of Romulan involvement in these events will only strengthen them. So, there might be an increase of bigotry towards Romulans in general in S2 and may even hasten a Fedxit of sorts. But the Romulan refugees are bound to have opinions on the revelations of Commodore Oh’s involvement as well, since her actions affected their lives and the Romulan rescue effort.
I don’t think we’re quite done with the Romulan story yet.
I sure hope not.
The problem with relying on pretty much anything from JJ Trek is that the “science” is just utter bullshit. JJ likes big, galaxy-threatening drama but his grasp of real-world physics is either pretty poor or he’s just so caught up in over-blown story-telling that he just doesn’t care if his grandiose plot devices simply don’t make sense.
Supernova? Sure...
Affecting anything and everything across the entire Galaxy? Hmmm...
The days of having real scientists discussing details with those creating the show so that advice from, say, actual astronomers and astrophysicists could inform the writing seem to have loooooooong gone.
I’m sure we’re not yet done with the Romulan story arc (or even arcs, given that there are several significant separate elements to this) and I don’t mind that — it’s worth exploring and developing — but I wouldn’t want it to become the whole focus of the show.
Supernova? Sure...
Affecting anything and everything across the entire Galaxy? Hmmm...
The days of having real scientists discussing details with those creating the show so that advice from, say, actual astronomers and astrophysicists could inform the writing seem to have loooooooong gone.
I’m sure we’re not yet done with the Romulan story arc (or even arcs, given that there are several significant separate elements to this) and I don’t mind that — it’s worth exploring and developing — but I wouldn’t want it to become the whole focus of the show.
Maybe Q will come back, see how Picard and crew have fallen since TNG S01/E01 and laugh.
Q isn't based on anything remotely scientific, but was still handled deftly. PIC can also dispatch with the silly ubermagic glitzy do-all gizmos that make Sickbay knitters feel authentic and plausible and able to repair massive, gaping hull ruptures as well as running the entire ship with its other emitter on the other side by comparison.
This isn't "Star Wars meets Harry Potter". Maybe that's the real issue; grandiose vs restrained fantasy elements to keep suspension of disbelief from magically disappearing.
Q isn't based on anything remotely scientific, but was still handled deftly. PIC can also dispatch with the silly ubermagic glitzy do-all gizmos that make Sickbay knitters feel authentic and plausible and able to repair massive, gaping hull ruptures as well as running the entire ship with its other emitter on the other side by comparison.
This isn't "Star Wars meets Harry Potter". Maybe that's the real issue; grandiose vs restrained fantasy elements to keep suspension of disbelief from magically disappearing.
They could get around the supernova threatening the galaxy by suggesting it was manmade, hence the creation of red matter to prevent it spreading within weeks. And there is uncertainty as to who is responsible for tampering with the Romulan sun, leaving it open ended for another Trek series to answer.
Spock’s explanation in ST ’09 makes the nature of the Romulan supernova, as well as red matter, the Jellyfish and Nero and the Narada crew (w/ its Borg tech, btw) all canon.
Its the circumstances surrounding La Forge, Worf, USS Enterprise-E, various Federation ships/Klingon BoPs/Cardassian ships, the existence of the Romulan Vault, and the unauthorized creation of red matter by the Vulcans in regards to the supernova that hasn’t been made canon from the ST ‘09 Countdown comics. Although, considering how Zhaban brought up Worf and La Forge along with Riker, it might be. It sounded like there was a lot of respect for them.
And I think the ST: Picard Countdown comics also matter in regards to canon for PIC. And might be more relevant.
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