'Star Trek: Picard' in the top 10 of original streaming programs
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You mean they adjusted the series to make up for the original choices that didn't work?
Kinda like season 3 of TNG after the complaints about the first 2 seasons? That's kinda what TV shows do after they figure out what characters worked and what didn't, and more importantly what the audience actually wants to watch.
But nothing says they would have done anything different with a LGBTQ relationship.
Seven and Raffi had some minor scenes.
True. But I have seen people complaining that Season 3 of Picard has been anti-progressive, which I find preposterous. Their argument is that because the Raffi-Seven relationship was sidelined that it was symbolic of Star Trek pulling back from LGBTQ representation this season.
Seven and Raffi had no romantic chemistry. Seven and Chakotay also had no romantic chemistry. Seven and her husband from The Confederation Timeline also don't seem like they'd have a chemistry.
All of Worf's lovers die. All of Seven's lovers aren't a good fit. All of Kim's adventures will be as an Ensign. "It is the order of things."
All of Worf's lovers die. All of Seven's lovers aren't a good fit. All of Kim's adventures will be as an Ensign. "It is the order of things."
It's dead, Jim.
ST:d never acheived this amaziong milestone. Much kudos to the brillant Terry Matalas and the staff at Picard s3. This should ensure a Legacy type show as the ratings reflect people want THIS Star Trek, and rejected DIscovery to the point it was shamefully canceled in only 5 seasons. Even Voyager lasted longer on a doomed network. Terry Matalas is a visonary and will take Trek back where it belongs, to where and why it became popular. The DSC pandering is over. The ratings reflect that.
CBS All Access never submitted their viewership to Nielsen. Paramount+ literally submitted them the week before the data from the OP’s article was posted. It’s impossible to know what any series BUT Picard season 3 has had in regards to hours watched.
This point has been stated multiple times in this thread yet is continuously ignored.
Oh for the love of God.....
Because the accuracy of the numbers is not the point. The point is to use Picard to beat down the rest of newer Trek as the worst. It's to serve a specific narrative.
There's no evidence of this.
No, the point of the thread (originally) was to celebrate Picard's success and my hope that Matalas is given another opportunity to continue his direction of Star Trek because of that success.
However, But I do think the REPEATED naysaying from many who reduce and diminish season 3 of Picard's success as just nostalgia and fanservice betrays a certain insecurity and defensiveness about fans cheering and being moved to tears over a version of Star Trek they feel undermines a series of choices that fans have complained about for years.
Really? I have been quite vocal and if Picard was the only show on I would say the same things.
I could be the last one watching Discovery and I would still do it.
I don't care about ratings. Give me a good story. If this is what the majority of the viewing audience wants then good for them and I mean that. I hope you get what you want. I won't silence my opinion around nostalgia because that's what it is.
Ever wonder why they never touted those numbers?
They didn't submit any numbers, at all. So it had nothing to do with Trek.
It was a business decision. And above my pay grade. At the end of the day, there have been multiple seasons of each instance streaming Trek has produced so they’ve done something right for Paramount. That’s great. I’ve also said that even if I am negative on this season, I respect that this report means that there’ll be more Trek for everyone. I can only hope that while I’m not a fan of the nostalgia filled direction of Picard season 3, I hope that Paramount+ continues to produce different types of Star Trek for different audiences INCLUDING for the fans of Picard season 3.
This. 1000% this.
I have no interest in all nostalgia all the time, but I welcome some nostalgia, as well as a variety of other shows. That would be a great sign of success to my mind.
I think when people reduce this show just to being nostalgia and fanservice (a term I don't even think should apply since fanservice is just unnecessary nods and gratuitous insertions and that's not what it is), it cheapens what they've accomplished with some of these performances from the actors. I don't think people are just crying and excited about this show because "Hey! That's Worf," they're into it because these characters seem familiar in ways they didn't in season 1, there's genuine character growth from characters like Riker, Troi, Data, etc., and the nostalgic elements are central themes of the plot.
People can argue about all of that. But people who reduce all of it to: "Oh people are just going nuts seeing the Enterprise-D," it's just so dismissive.
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