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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard General Discussion Thread
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After watching/listening to the Picard Season 3 end credits a gazillion times on youtube, it's crazy how many spoilers were in the credits but only if you knew what to look for. For example one shot shows a starship component with labels in Klingon in the LCARS computer, then real-time translated into English. It only hit me today that this shot is of the specs of the Klingon cloaking device from the HMS Bounty being adapted into a Starfleet computer system.
The opening credits for the first two seasons are the same way. Hell, the first season's credits are done up in the manner of the Romulan creation myth that Nareks talks about in the finale and among the imagery seen in the credits is the wormhole the cybernetic tentacle monster would emerge from.
Not Picard, but the Discovery Season 2 opening had the Enterprise Captain's chair and the coordinates to Talos IV.
SNW seems to be the only live action opening without plot related items.
It also gave away Picard's cybernetic things didn't it?
I wonder if he'll have a comment about his appearance in Picard season 3?
He's talking about being on Days of our lives and talking about his tv roles. And having dyslexia and how difficult it is to learn lines for Star Trek and memorizing them and not going to the first audition for Q. He talked about preparing the lines for doing the second audition for Q and meeting Gene Roddenberry. It's been a good interview so far. And he's talking about it now. He didn't mention being in the Last Generation just being on TNG and that he returned for Picard and enjoyed the experience of filming season 3 shows.
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Yeah I remember him from Days Of Our Lives. He was very cool as Eugene Brady, married to a woman called Calliope and his final appearance was vanishing in a phone box / time machine
It's so weird to see Stewart psuedo-pimping a new movie. After two decades of "TNG never got a proper send-off", they finally do one (for better or worse) in season three of PIC but he's willing to throw that away on one more ride? There's no way a movie services all the TNG cast and he knows it.
I think that's very human of him and wanting one last hurrah.
He's still an Actor, thus he's NEVER going to say to his fans: "No...I'm now done..." after this last outing was so well received. Why? That's 'negative' - and negative comments like that from the lead may kill rewatch interest in some segment of fandom and both he and the studio know that - so they both do media comments that "keep hope alive".
I mean - Sir Patrick Stewart is 83 (and yes, a couple TOS cast members are that age or older and still around, and William Shatner in 92 and still active); but the odds are Mr. Stewart may not remain around long enough/really have the ability to do a film by the time another such Trek project is ready to go - but again, he wants to keep fan interest going, so he's never going to say, "No, that's it..." in public.
He said "that's it" for a long, long time tho. He said it after every TNG movie. And, for many many years, he meant it. In short: If he felt he was done, he'd say so.
Stewart is 82 years old, I think the roles for him are drying up but he wants to keep working and I think that was partly what motivated his return to the role in the first place. I think he likely genuinely enjoyed returning the role immensely, being the main man again and there is part of him that regrets the initial demands, regrets only signing up for three seasons and ideas of S1/S2 to avoid it becoming a TNG reunion. So it is natural, but I don't want to see anymore. They had their last hurrah, it was a perfect ending.
I certainly want to see more of these characters, but I have no idea where you go with Picard himself and make it onscreen. hashtag star trek legacy.
I certainly want to see more of these characters, but I have no idea where you go with Picard himself and make it onscreen. hashtag star trek legacy.
He said it after Star Trek Nemesis (and after it came in at #2 on its opening weekend behind Jennifer Lopez's Maid in Manhattan).
Before Nemesis premiered, the entire cast (including Patrick Stewart) was claiming it was one of the best Star Trek films they worked on, and there was talk of starting on another Star Trek film almost immediately.
I forced myself to watch seasons 1 and 2 of picard before eventually getting to season 3. And oh boy. Were seasons 1 and 2 trash. Utter trash. But season 3 almost redeemed the series.
The concepts of season 1 was cool. But it was so poorly executed. The android rebellion was an interesting idea. But by trying to redeem and 'humanize' romulans, it lost me. (I liked it when klingons were enemies in TOS. And I hated how they were pseudo allies in TNG. Lost so many great story opportunities.) I want the romulans to remain a non borg baddie. I like how they're supposed to be diametrically opposed to the federation. Sneaky and covert. The perfect antithesis to the bright and cheery federation. Picard becoming an android really didn't bother me. But it's how and why he became an android. And the whole random number generator implant to not extend his life, felt like a cop out. It felt made up for out of universe reasons. The visions of data especially in the beginning felt like too much foreshadowing. Having data be reconstructed entirely from a single neuron felt cheap. Like a cheat code that lessened the plot. Data dying at the end was ok. But I've seen him die twice by that point. I felt nothing. The violence while refreshing also felt like it was just there for the sake of being there. There were only two instances where the violence shown was warranted. When seven killed the borg harvester. And when agnes killed the guy in sickbay. Decapitation made me feel uneasy. But what I really hated about season 1 was the ending. How the hell did the robot arms not come back through the portal? Are they incapable of doing so? If so then why do they just wait in their little hole and allow sentient life to take root and destroy artificial life? Really should've been a massive battle at the end with the metal tentacles and claws.
Season 2 felt like they were saving money, by shooting it in modern day LA. I did not like seeing the actress who played data's daughter, play soong's daughter again. It felt cheap. At the end bringing back wesley crusher made me feel a big WHY? Agnes merging with the borg queen and making her own borg to stop some sort of anomaly. I didn't like. Personally I hated the characters of agnes and rios. I'm glad they were written out. But the damage they did was already done. Elnor coming back at the end felt inconsequential. I didn't mind Q dying. But what I really hate are time travel plots. They feel pretentious and self referential. I wanted to see more of the confederation. I wanted to see the World Razer in action. I like mirror universes. This season should've been about the mirror universe instead.
Season 3 was great. Everything about it was great. My only real gripes were; having the borg be present in all three seasons. Having shaw die. And renaming the Titan-A as the Enterprise-G. It felt disrespectful to the crew of the titan and to riker's legacy. Also why did the borg allow the enterprise-d to get so close? Was the queen gloating and taunting picard? I never picked up on it. It's almost like she wanted to be defeated. Personally I would've let shaw live. Given seven a brand new constituion 3 class and call that ship the enterprise-G instead.
I think my true problem with the series overall was that I hated the fate of the galaxy being on the line. I'm really sick of that. High stakes dont always mean a good show. Sometimes I just wanna watch an episodic adventure. The series should've been about picard doing astro archaeology. Imagine space indiana jones. It would've made the lack of star fleet much easier. Season 3 excluded of course.
The concepts of season 1 was cool. But it was so poorly executed. The android rebellion was an interesting idea. But by trying to redeem and 'humanize' romulans, it lost me. (I liked it when klingons were enemies in TOS. And I hated how they were pseudo allies in TNG. Lost so many great story opportunities.) I want the romulans to remain a non borg baddie. I like how they're supposed to be diametrically opposed to the federation. Sneaky and covert. The perfect antithesis to the bright and cheery federation. Picard becoming an android really didn't bother me. But it's how and why he became an android. And the whole random number generator implant to not extend his life, felt like a cop out. It felt made up for out of universe reasons. The visions of data especially in the beginning felt like too much foreshadowing. Having data be reconstructed entirely from a single neuron felt cheap. Like a cheat code that lessened the plot. Data dying at the end was ok. But I've seen him die twice by that point. I felt nothing. The violence while refreshing also felt like it was just there for the sake of being there. There were only two instances where the violence shown was warranted. When seven killed the borg harvester. And when agnes killed the guy in sickbay. Decapitation made me feel uneasy. But what I really hated about season 1 was the ending. How the hell did the robot arms not come back through the portal? Are they incapable of doing so? If so then why do they just wait in their little hole and allow sentient life to take root and destroy artificial life? Really should've been a massive battle at the end with the metal tentacles and claws.
Season 2 felt like they were saving money, by shooting it in modern day LA. I did not like seeing the actress who played data's daughter, play soong's daughter again. It felt cheap. At the end bringing back wesley crusher made me feel a big WHY? Agnes merging with the borg queen and making her own borg to stop some sort of anomaly. I didn't like. Personally I hated the characters of agnes and rios. I'm glad they were written out. But the damage they did was already done. Elnor coming back at the end felt inconsequential. I didn't mind Q dying. But what I really hate are time travel plots. They feel pretentious and self referential. I wanted to see more of the confederation. I wanted to see the World Razer in action. I like mirror universes. This season should've been about the mirror universe instead.
Season 3 was great. Everything about it was great. My only real gripes were; having the borg be present in all three seasons. Having shaw die. And renaming the Titan-A as the Enterprise-G. It felt disrespectful to the crew of the titan and to riker's legacy. Also why did the borg allow the enterprise-d to get so close? Was the queen gloating and taunting picard? I never picked up on it. It's almost like she wanted to be defeated. Personally I would've let shaw live. Given seven a brand new constituion 3 class and call that ship the enterprise-G instead.
I think my true problem with the series overall was that I hated the fate of the galaxy being on the line. I'm really sick of that. High stakes dont always mean a good show. Sometimes I just wanna watch an episodic adventure. The series should've been about picard doing astro archaeology. Imagine space indiana jones. It would've made the lack of star fleet much easier. Season 3 excluded of course.
Yup, because contract. He was quite frank at a convention a while ago when someone asked why he claimed Nemesis was a good movie back then: "I lied." It's showbusiness. Actors have to promote the thing they're in before said thing is released. It doesn't matter if they truly think it's good or not. Once the hype is over they're usually free to speak their minds.
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