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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard General Discussion Thread

I've got twelve or so non-consecutive years in various parts of the service sector -- retail, restaurants, live theatre box office, managing a cinema, client services at a nonprofit, client services at a for-profit...

The customer is absolutely not always right. In fact, the customer is often wrong. In fact, the customer is often abusive. Sometimes, the customer needs to be kicked out of the building.

(I'll never forget the woman who tried to rush her way into a movie that had started without paying for a ticket. "But it's already playing! I'm late! Let me in and I'll buy a ticket after it's over." "No, that's not how this works." "This is bad customer service!" I didn't say this out loud, but I wanted to reply, "You are not a customer yet!")
 
I've got twelve or so non-consecutive years in various parts of the service sector -- retail, restaurants, live theatre box office, managing a cinema, client services at a nonprofit, client services at a for-profit...

The customer is absolutely not always right. In fact, the customer is often wrong. In fact, the customer is often abusive. Sometimes, the customer needs to be kicked out of the building.

(I'll never forget the woman who tried to rush her way into a movie that had started without paying for a ticket. "But it's already playing! I'm late! Let me in and I'll buy a ticket after it's over." "No, that's not how this works." "This is bad customer service!" I didn't say this out loud, but I wanted to reply, "You are not a customer yet!")
Fun fact. A customer is someone who actually engages in business with you. When they have paid for the product and are willing to engage in the social contract of using your goods and services. Until then they are a potential customer.
 
Even worse than retail/customer service, is working in a call center. I worked in a call center from 2010 to 2013, doing outbound calls to people who didn't want to be contacted by people like me. So, basically, I spent three-and-a-half years getting yelled at by people eight hours per day. Basically we contacted shareholders of different companies, rich bastards, and tried to get them to vote over the phone, to maximize proxy votes for said companies' boards of directors.

I engineered my own layoff. I was very good at the job for the first three years, because I got them the numbers they were looking for, but it wore on me, as you can imagine. They kept anyone who performed above a certain level and let go of anyone who performed below it. So I sabotaged my job performance during those last several months, performing below what they wanted, so they would lay me off and I could collect unemployment while looking for a new job. Then I became a Freelance Videographer afterwards, for six years. Which was great in that I got to do what I wanted but bad because once I was freelance, I was at the mercy of when things were busy and when they were slow. So I had to constantly act like I had no money, so I'd be able to make it through the slower periods...

... and, as an adult, I completely see what Gene Roddenberry was going for when he wanted to have a future that didn't revolve around money. Yes! Please! Give us that future! But anyway...
 
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I'll never forget the woman who tried to rush her way into a movie that had started without paying for a ticket. "But it's already playing! I'm late! Let me in and I'll buy a ticket after it's over." "No, that's not how this works." "This is bad customer service!" I didn't say this out loud, but I wanted to reply, "You are not a customer yet!")
Reminds me of a time I was riding the bus. A woman got on and tried taking a seat without paying fare. The driver told her she had to pay. Conversation went as follows:
Driver: You going to pay?
Woman: I have a pass.
Driver: Can I see it?
Woman: I don't have it with me, it's in my apartment.
Driver: Then you can't ride the bus.
Woman (pulls out some random piece of paper from her pocket): Can we pretend this is a pass?
Driver: No.
Woman: You don't actually expect me to go back up to my apartment and get my pass, do you?
(Yes, this particular bus stop was right outside an apartment building.)
Driver: Yes.
Woman: How do I know you won't drive off?
Driver: I won't.
Woman: You better not.
The woman then got off the bus and walked towards her building. The driver waited until she got to the building's entrance then closed the bus door and drove off.
 
@Lord Garth
I actually liked working retail. Sure there were some scumbag customers. But it was great socialization for me. Back when I was an awkward teenager. I worked at a theater at refreshments and as an usher. We weren't allowed tips. So I wasn't working for my bread. I genuinely liked helping people.

I hated working back of house jobs. One summer I had a warehouse job with a very petty and vindictive boss who made my life hell, because the girl he liked, liked me instead.

Nobody likes call centers. Because there's a layer of abstraction between people over the phone. And you can be as much of an asshole as you want. And not to mention scammers. Oh god the scammers. My grandmother had $1000 drained from her bank account by a bunch of madarchods who threatened to throw her in IRS jail.
 
I did a couple of years taking calls for clients at a local charity / help centre in the city here and after that period felt burnt out, the calls were often people in need and it really did get to you emotionally, and when we got to rotate into doing actual client interviews where the clients would come in that was even worse because of some of the stories you hear. That was a long, long time ago now.
 
“I think we could do a movie, a ‘Picard’-based movie,” he said. “Now not necessarily at all about Picard but about all of us. And to take many of those wonderful elements, particularly from Season 3 of ‘Picard’ and take out of that what I think could be an extraordinary movie. I keep telling people and mentioning it, and so far there’s been no eager response, but it might well happen. And that would be I think a very appropriate way to say, ‘And goodbye folks.’


Picard III was the perfect ending... but if they offer one more..?

There is one path I see, and only one, if they do a movie. A poker game on the Ent-D, maybe set in the holodeck in a nightclub in a Dixon Hill novel. While the Ent-D is on route to Krilar Prime to recover the Ent-E and bring it home.

While playing their game of poker, each of the crew has a 10-15 minute story relating to an adventure, or series of adventures, or a meeting with an individual, which would be flashbacks, Or really, short films within a film.

Picard & Laris (make an archaeologic discovery on Hanoran II (ex. a Tkon transporter that can transport suns, as well as Reckoning tablets related to the D’Arsay and the Tkon that predate the Bajoran Reckoning tablets). The expedition is being led by archeologist Jil Orra, who is making a new legacy separate from her father Gul Madred. Elnor, Jack and Jason Vigo all meet each other on Hanoran II. Kivas Fajo, Ardra, and Daimon Bok are working together and have come to Hanoran II to steal the archeological discovery. Donatra (now an admiral herself) & now commanding the D’deridex class Warbird Terix (gifted to her from Tomalak) come to the aid of Picard and Laris and intercept Bok’s Marauder, keeping her promise of Picard having friends within the Romulan Empire) (15 min)

Riker & Troi (Titan story in the 2380s involving Wesley Crusher and a Rios cameo. Maybe Riker and Troi fire up the holodeck to simulate the Opal Sea on Betazed. Riker plays a prank on Troi with Lwaxana sayings (ex. little one) while Troi uses the ship’s computer. Riker gets a do over GEN against a different member of the House of Duras, specifically Toral on a Vorcha cruiser. Maybe Troi gives an update of Barclay.) (15 min)

Worf (Near the Great Hall in the First City in QonoS with his Gorn friend that was supposed to be in NEM. DS9 cameos (ex. Kira, Odo, Ezri; basically summing up the DS9 S8 ideas to make them canon). Worf being married to Grilka. Worf recalling the demise of Ent-E over Krilar Prime.) (10 min)

Crusher (Took on Pulaski’s children/grandchildren as proteges on the Eleos. An Eleos mission where she went in disguise as a Klingon on a Klingon colony. Has a heart-to-heart with Robin Lefler over Lefler being the wife of Wesley.) (10 min) *Maybe the Klingon story with Riker, Troi, Worf and Crusher can overlap*

Data (Data, Soji, & the La Forges hang out on a holodeck in an original Sherlock Holmes story. Or, because of Data’s new lease on life, Data decides to reassemble Lal.) (10 min)

Geordi (Talking to Jurati about Data & B4 at Daystrom Institute a few years before PIC S1. Building the Jellyfish for Spock to use during the Romulan supernova crisis. Finds out Dr. Brahms uses holodeck to fulfill various fantasies (ex. Dr. Zimmerman/Bruce Maddox/TNG era Geordi) and introduces Brahms to his wife while they inspect engineering together.)(10 min)

Guinan (drops by and shared some stories predating TNG, such as attending the Federation Founding Ceremony with a much older Lily Sloane and witnesses Solkar give a speech about first contact with Zefram Cochrane before he signs the Federation Charter. Or Guinan listening in on a conversation involving Colonel Worf, Admiral Harriman, Lojur, and Dimitri Valtane about Captain Saavik and High Chancellor Azetbur in the early 24th century) (10 min)

Zhaban makes a surprise appearance, revealing he faked his death to go after Narek and Oh and bring them to justice (I wouldn’t expect much beyond a footchase and a stairwell scene, since all great movies have a stair scene.) (5 min)

Maybe an Ian McKellen cameo as Captain Rupert Crandell.

Seven & Raffi
make small cameo appearances in the movie too.

Then the other 30 minutes of the film are ship flybys of the Ent-D and Ent-E side by side, the Stargazer and Titan-A joining formation with the Ent-D & Ent-E; the poker game being played, and other poker discussions that aren’t flashbacks but more small talk, bantering, recalling and theorizing.

Examples of such poker discussions: a GEN callback recalling the Nexus. INS callbacks regarding the state of the Baku in the early 25th century, what happened to Anji, and in reference to a deleted scene, if Quark ever actually visited the planet. What was Picard doing in those twelve years he wasn’t aboard a starship prior to being a captain on the Ent-D? Discuss theories on whatever happened to Sela. Discuss Kirk’s adventures from the TOS movies. Discuss Bajor adopting baseball in honor of Sisko. What was the deal with those parasites in “Conspiracy”?

Maybe Riker finally performs Night Bird in Ten Forward near the end of the movie.

Then the movie ends with Crusher meets Jurati & Borg Cooperative. Data and Soji as synth ambassadors. Geordi and his daughters back at Daystrom Station mothballing the recovered Ent-E. Worf taking Elnor under his wing. Riker and Troi witnessing Kestra graduate Starfleet Academy. Picard with Laris on Chaltok IV.

To make it an all time film, some tips to make sure their cinematography is top notch, learning from the other Trek films.
  • It should be well lit like in GEN.
  • It has a consistent tone, like FC.
  • Its full of energy, the camera is always moving, and is filled with medium shots, like ST’09 and STID.
  • There should also be wide shots, like in TMP.
  • More crane shots on planet settings than seen in INS.
  • It should not look cheap & bland like INS.
  • If there’s a Bird of Prey in the movie and it explodes, make a new BoP exploding sequence, and make sure than the music swells with destruction of antagonist ship like in TUC.
  • Have Jonathan Frakes direct the film. He gets the TNG cast best.
  • Then give it a TOS movie title, instead of these single word subtitle the TNG movies usually had and it will be fine.
This is the only ending I can think of that's resolute in saying goodbye, while also giving off good feelings, while also not undermining the work of PIC S3 if they go ahead with making a fifth and final TNG film.
 
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My friend wants to know why Picard season 3 is not available in 4k for him? I do not care as I watch everything on my phone which I think could be SVGA. My friend has been traveling around the world for 6 months with limited time and internet, so he has only just started watching this season.
 
My friend wants to know why Picard season 3 is not available in 4k for him? I do not care as I watch everything on my phone which I think could be SVGA. My friend has been traveling around the world for 6 months with limited time and internet, so he has only just started watching this season.
Might need more info.
 
Might need more info.
He is watching it on Amazon Prime. Like I said, I do not care as I do not even have a TV, but my friend likes to watch things in 4k on larger screens for some reason. He also has surround sound, but he said that this show sounds fine so far. :shrug:
 
Season 3 was not done in 4K. I think SNW is the first show to have been done in 4K so far. I guess for some reason they’re not willing to upscale Picard season 3.
 
Season 3 was not done in 4K. I think SNW is the first show to have been done in 4K so far. I guess for some reason they’re not willing to upscale Picard season 3.
They'll upscale it to 4K in five years, to make sure we double-dip.

I have no way to prove this, but I think they'll also eventually re-remaster TOS and TNG to 4K. Yet DS9 and VOY will remain in SD, and ENT will remain at 720p. But, if one those later legacy shows gets upscaled, it'll be VOY.
 
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