I'd rather not let YouTube morons do my thinking for me.
Spoilers Star Trek: Picard General Discussion Thread
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Sometimes people who do YouTube videos are just regular reviewers!
My days of enjoying Youtube channels about things I don't like are way past me. The amount of time in my 20s I spent on them is absurd. Rather watch and make up my own mind. And that's all I really have time for anyway.
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And that's when I knew not to read anymore of that post.
If IMDb is to be believed (and it could be right, it has yet to be wrong about any of the pre-airing casting on episode pages for Picard or Discovery (and SNW)), James Callis is in next weeks episode as there was a listing for a Stunt Double for him back in February.
https://twitter.com/TheTrekCentral/status/1495045498708926465
I wonder if he could be playing Picard's father?
https://twitter.com/TheTrekCentral/status/1495045498708926465
I wonder if he could be playing Picard's father?
That would work but unfortunately Picard orders the turbolift to "Deck 10, Forward Station One" in "The Child". Hence, Ten Forward.
The Enerprise D had many crew lounges, so its entirely possibly, Guinan came across Picard on the Enterprise, and he offered her a position on board, and she chose that specific lounge to run - as in serendipity.
His quarters are on deck 8 in the blueprints. Deck 9 has a smaller mess hall above Ten Forward. Perhaps Guinan chose the deck 10 mess hall over the many others that are spread around the ship
Yeah, I like the idea that they had multiple possible locations for the bar and she chose the one that she could give a familiar name to.
Then that means the only future for this timeline is the confederacy one. If it was a timeline split everything pre-split should be as it always was like in BTTF2 where Marty went back from a corrupted 1985 to see himself who had travelled back from the normal 1985.
You are leaving out the obvious fact that Q is very much to blame for everything being the way it is.
It's not just 'Time Travel' in the mix, he very much created the entire situation the moment he snapped his fingers and brought everybody back to life after the Stargazer exploded.
So the 'usual rules' of Trek time travel probably need to be tossed out the window in this particular case.
I would add that the whole situation is especially incongruous because Q doesn't seem to be completely in control, as well as we have the Borg Queen's machinations involved.
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Except the images, and words often looked blurry, in transition, especially in the first movie.
Until they prevent Q's changes yes, then it will turn back into the Federaiton timeline and the events of Time's Arrow will be restored.
It's not that hard to understand.
There's already been one run through where Q made his change, without the Picard & Company to interfere (and Q's self doubt snap worked). After that happened all the past Federation time travel disappeared. This is now the second run through, where Picard & Co come from a Confederation future that has no time travel in its past.
To be fair changing the past by altering the present isn't entirely intuitive.
We're in a timeline where Dr. Gillian Taylor never went to the future, where transparent aluminium is presumably being invented without Scotty's help, and where Chronowerx didn't use a crashed timeship to revolutionise the computer industry. But changing something in it will still lead to a future where the Federation exists. If the Federation exists, there will be more time travel, which will alter the past, present and future, putting us back in the timeline we know.
I kind of like this idea. It also might tie into my idea about the Borg Queens. We know the Borg Queen that the gang used to go back in time is not the Borg Queen from the Prime Universe. The Prime Universe was the one who came aboard the Stargazer. This Borg Queen comes from the Confederation timeline. Thus this Borg Queen has a invested interests in making sure the Confederation timeline comes to be or else she never becomes the Queen or is even born.
The watchers also don't really know the future. They see how bad modern earth is and look at them possibly going into space due to the Europia mission and bringing their problems to other worlds so they or some of them want to stop the Europia mission from happening and just assuming the human race will kill itself, not knowing that instead they still get into space and create the Confederation. Some might disagree though because they have heard stories about Gary Seven's encounter with Kirk and Spock. Laris watcher is on the fence and will either help the Borg queen change the future or stop her based on her perception of Picard and whether or not this postive human future talked about from the Gary Seven stories is true. One of the ways she does this is by taking a familiar face in Laris to explore his guilt and fears over letting himself ever fall in love.
I also think the major conflict is over who becomes the Borg Queen. If the one we saw remains Queen then the Confederation comes to exists. If Jurati becomes Queen then she becomes the Borg Queen who wants to lead the Borg into joining the Federation. Whoever wins the fight for Jurati's body or soul between the two of them will shape which future comes to be.
If only the Confederacy future exists then who, exactly, traveled from that future to meet Guinan in 1897?
Changes in the future causing a ripple effect in the past. If the Confederacy Picard never travels to 1897, then Picard never meets Guinan. And frankly, if Guinan had met Confederacy Picard, and that is the only Picard that exists in the future, she probably wouldn't have hesitated before firing that shotgun.
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