Spoilers Star Trek: Picard General Discussion Thread

[Alexander Corrino]

Another interview with Orla Brady has appeared, and this time she does say that there MIGHT be a connection between Laris and Tallinn.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/t...aris-strength-female-director-1235124891/amp/

 

[Mr Awe]

Another interview with Orla Brady has appeared, and this time she does say that there MIGHT be a connection between Laris and Tallinn.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/t...aris-strength-female-director-1235124891/amp/

Well, sort of. She says she thinks that it's how Picard sees her. That others wouldn't see such a strong resemblance. Doesn't explain the Romulan tech though.

“I think that we are seeing Tallinn through Picard’s eyes. She is not Laris. She is a different woman in a different time. We learn that maybe there is a connection, but she is an entirely different woman. Other people would not see as much of a similarity as he does.”

 

[Yistaan]

Well, sort of. She says she thinks that it's how Picard sees her. That others wouldn't see such a strong resemblance. Doesn't explain the Romulan tech though.

“I think that we are seeing Tallinn through Picard’s eyes. She is not Laris. She is a different woman in a different time. We learn that maybe there is a connection, but she is an entirely different woman. Other people would not see as much of a similarity as he does.”

Raffi was all but shouting that this was a Laris clone. It's not just Picard.

 

[Mr Awe]

Raffi was all but shouting that this was a Laris clone. It's not just Picard.

Tell that to Orla Brady. I'm just relaying what she said.

 

[Timofnine]

I just had a thought, I’m sure that other people have had this same thought too. Maybe the watchers are the bad guys trying to preserve the Confederation timeline? In which case Laris could be a surgically altered Romulan spy on this mission to preserve the Confederations future, hence us not actually seeing Laris in the Confederation timeline future (they did say that she had been killed, but that could be a cover story for her mission). This might also explain why they told Guinan to go away? Guinan is a good person and maybe *would* have been a watcher in the prime timeline that we know and love?

 

[gweeps]

Even though John de Lancie apparently said he filmed scenes for six episodes, his character of Q has been spread throughout each episode so far.

1- briefly at the end, scene connects directly to next episode.
2- long scene with Patrick Stewart.
3- glimpse, almost a retake of part of the previous episode, just staged differently.
4- small scene at end w/ cute lady who plays Renee Picard.
5- in several scenes, probably total amount of time similar to episode 2.

John de Lancie said Q is a "catalyst" this outing, so it makes sense for him to mostly be in the background unless he actually must get directly involved. I'm betting we don't see him for a couple of episodes, but instead we see what he tasked Soong with. Then we'll probably see him one or two more times.

Basically I'm just curious what John de Lancie meant by "six episodes". Obviously, he's done basically 4 now.

 

[Alexander Corrino]

It’s possible that he didn’t know yet which scene would end up in which episode when he said “six episodes”. I mean some scenes are re-shuffled, other scenes are cut, etc. This whole thing is probably not as clear-cut as his appearances in TNG’s self-contained episodes.

 

[dupersuper]

I'd like to think of it as carrying on a Trek tradition - Locarno/Paris, Leslie/Connor/Ryan, Odo/West/Ezral, Miranda Jones/Ann Mulhall, Admiral Cartwright/Joseph Sisko, Number One/Nurse Chapel...

Commodore Wesley/Commander Giotto. St. John Talbot/Gorkon, and many more no doubt.

Dr. Theodore Haskins/Tamar/The Old Man From Yonada.

James Kirk/Sam Kirk

Every one Brent Spiner has played, every one Jeffrey Combs has played, Saavik and the Vulcan separatist from Gambit, Quark and an earlier Ferengi...

 

[Tiberous Q Data]

Tallinn is young Laris isn't she? Laris isn't really a Romulan.

Not only do we not seem to be getting an origin for Q's feud with Guinan, we now have another mystery on why Guinan is feuding with Tallinn/Gary Seven's group.

Why doesn't Guinan just remember Picard? They already met in the 1800's.

I can't square this circle. I think it is a big continuity error/sloppy story telling..

 

[mdtauk]

Why doesn't Guinan just remember Picard? They already met in the 1800's.

I can't square this circle. I think it is a big continuity error/sloppy story telling..

Technically if the timeline change has happened, Picard would not have been on the Enterprise D, to go back in time for the events of Time's Arrow - but also Guinan may have started in the 21st Century, then gone back to explore an earlier period, before moving to another period, I guess?

Its all confusing

 

[Tuskin38]

Why doesn't Guinan just remember Picard? They already met in the 1800's.

I can't square this circle. I think it is a big continuity error/sloppy story telling..

Because in this timeline that event never happened.
https://www.inverse.com/entertainment/picard-showrunner-guinan-2024-jean-luc-star-trek

 

[Turtletrekker]

Why doesn't Guinan just remember Picard? They already met in the 1800's.

I can't square this circle. I think it is a big continuity error/sloppy story telling..

The Jean Luc Picard that she met in 1897 no longer exists, so how could he have traveled back in time to meet her?

 

[Char Kais]

I watched RedLetterMedia's latest review of Picard season 2 episode 4/5 and it contained a clip from a Patrick Stewart interview on "The Ready Room" (I usually don't watch TRR, I was made aware of the interview through the RLM review).

In this interview, Patrick Stewart says that the show would explain why "Ten Forward" in TNG was called "Ten Forward":

The main crew lobby on the Enterprise-D was not called "Ten Forward" because it was located on deck 10, forward section, but because Guinan had a bar on earth for hundreds of years in Los Angeles on 10 Forward Avenue.


#NuTrek #Facepalm

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Side note: I find it appropriate and telling that both RedLetterMedia and the AngryJoeShow use a picture of a burning dumpster in the background when they talk about Picard in their latest videos.

 

[Campe]

Nobody cares.

 

[cooleddie74]

RedLetterMedia: Siskel & Ebert for the audience who thinks Siskel & Ebert were too sophisticated.

 

[fireproof78]

Nobody cares.

Zero clicks given.

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

The main crew lobby on the Enterprise-D was not called "Ten Forward" because it was located on deck 10, forward section, but because Guinan had a bar on earth for hundreds of years in Los Angeles on 10 Forward Avenue.

Picard's quarters are on deck 9 and have sloping windows, therefore 10 Forward has to be two decks below on deck 11. Unless they renamed deck 11 to deck 10 after Guinan's famous bar on 10 Forward Avenue. Checkmate.

 

[ThreeEdgedSword]

Side note: I find it appropriate and telling that both RedLetterMedia and the AngryJoeShow use a picture of a burning dumpster in the background when they talk about Picard in their latest videos.

I find it very telling, too. But probably in a different way.

That little tidbit about us learning why the bar was called Ten Forward - SPS said this before and it's long been linked to, probably in a general thread.

 

[Kzinti]

RedLetterMedia and the AngryJoeShow

well that explains a lot about the ''stuff'' you post

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

Hey, RedLetterMedia and Angry Joe do some good videos! They're not the kind of channels that just hate on things to get clicks. Though saying that, I'm not really interested in hearing what RLM thinks about modern Star Trek. It brings them no joy.