Spoilers Star Trek: Picard General Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by Tuskin38, Sep 28, 2019.

  1. Campe

    Campe Vice Admiral Admiral

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    I liked Data. But he's dead. His appearance in Picard season 1, while intriguing, was truly unnecessary to the plot. The same result could have been obtained with or without Brent Spiner.
     
  2. Discofan

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    Looks like you're suffering from a Data overload...:lol:
     
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  3. cooleddie74

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    I love how Data's remaining positronic consciousness was allowed to die at the end of Season 1. Whatever issues one has with PIC as a series - and I had some - the way Data was finally written out of the storyline was beautiful and allowed Brent Spiner to give us the Goodbye that NEM should have been had it been less of a hamfisted, rushed action movie. "Blue Skies" playing on the holographic record turntable as Data settles onto his couch to finally die for good and then a holographic image of Picard showing up to hold his hand and give him comfort in his final moments may be one the most beautiful sequences in Trek in the past forty years.
     
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  4. NCC-73515

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    Picard is the name of the show, and Data needed proper closure for 20 years. Many of the best scenes in the show would not have been possible without Data or Spiner.
     
  5. Turtletrekker

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  6. Discofan

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    Well, good for him.
     
  7. Reanok

    Reanok Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Good for him.I hope all of the cast can stay well too.
     
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  8. Lord Garth

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    After "Q Who?" and "Deja Q", you would've thought there would've been more between Q and Guinan in TNG. Since Guinan will be in the second season, if Q shows you, they'll have a second chance. That would be fun to see.
     
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  9. Dryson

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    I think that the Federation is in decline during Picard.

    During the Dominion War, we saw Changelings infiltrate Starfleet to rather devastating effects. Now, in Picard we see Romulans, at top levels of Starfleet intelligence, then betray the Federation.

    Could it be possible that the Changelings and Romulans, knowing what they know about the Federation and the inner workings of Starfleet, have actually been setting the stage for the total defeat of Starfleet and the capture of the Federation?

    Was the Dominion War and all of the losses suffered by the Cardassians, Romulans, Dominion and others involved who had been the enemies of the Federation in the past, simply have been a ruse to lull Starfleet and the Federation into thinking it was the dominant force in the entire galaxy only to pounce on Starfleet later on under the guise of being subjugated?
     
  10. fireproof78

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    A long and devastating war will do that. Followed by more and more battles.
     
  11. cooleddie74

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    The Dominion War was the most devastating conflict in the known history of the Alpha Quadrant. The Cardassians were reduced to a shell of their former self, the Klingon Empire was severely reduced in strength and other regional powers were either severely hobbled or decimated. The Federation lost a lot of starships and lives and who knows how many resources.

    I can easily buy that the Federation is still in a rebuilding phase in 2399 and 2400.
     
  12. ThreeEdgedSword

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    Marina Sirtis is moving back to the UK, so with all the travel restrictions right now, I suppose that means we definitely won't see her in s2. Not that it was very likely anyway.
     
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    It was very human, the very thing Data always wanted.

    And then the Hobus star blew up and ravaged the Romulan empire. Not much was left intact by the end of the century. But I like that; like a more relatable version of DSC's 32nd century.
     
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  14. cooleddie74

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    The Federation had to end at least one of its first few centuries of existence on a down note. The 24th century makes just as much sense as any up to that point.
     
  15. Dryson

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    Gene's utopian vision of Trek was answered by Sisko during a DS9 episode. Everything on Earth is utopian, no crime, no war, nothing, while the rest of the galaxy claws at itself and tries to survive.

    Maybe Sisko will show up in Picard to further explain what he meant just as the Romulans attack and....
     
  16. Tuskin38

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  17. eschaton

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    Interesting, although it seems like he published a rough draft. At one point he talks about a population of 32 million, and at another, 20 million living in Stardust City, and 120 million outside.

    This also seems wrong:

    I don't know how a planet is supposed to be temperate at the tropics, while also being hot at the equator, and warmer than Earth overall.
     
  18. Tuskin38

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    Air, water flow and landmass shape can effect the climate

    There was an example I read a while back, I don’t remember the exact details, but if you changed North America a certain way, the UK and Northern Europe would be just as cold as Russia because of the water current.
     
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    Yeah, I saw a video about that point some time ago. If you removed the isthmus of Panama and connected the two oceans, you'd get rid of/significantly weaken the Gulf Stream -- which is most of why western Europe and the Mediterranean are so lush today.
     
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  20. Visitor1982

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    Will season 2 indeed start filming tomorrow?