Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x10 - "The Last Generation"

[TheMadCloner]

Spacedock was impressive. To withstand that much sustained weapons fire and still hold shields around the entire planet for that long.

Was that the first pseudo post-credits scene in Trek?

 

[TheMadCloner]

I'm just going to say it, Ed Speleers is the wish.com James McAvoy. But they both got to work with Alice Krige in a vaguely motherly role and both got to be involved in two different franchises with Sir Pat

I guess they couldn’t afford Taron Egerton

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

Routing transporters through phasers, inventing the portable beam-me-up

That would be a handy way to capture a target.

Red and orange beams!

The Phasers seam to come in all sorts of colors of the Rainbow, maybe it's color are tunable via frequency shift, like the colors of light.

But the thing that makes me happy the most, that they actually had everybody firing at the correct speeds.
Basically the speed of light, which is what the TNG Technical Manual states.

That's the correct way to portray Phasers, similar to a LASER.

Now the only thing they're missing is range.

The range they're fighting at is still "Too close" for how long distance space combat should be.

But definitely a improvement.

Spacedock was impressive. To withstand that much sustained weapons fire and still hold shields around the entire planet for that long.

The fact that SpaceDock was able to take on a entire fleet for nearly an hour.

That's the kind of toughness that I'm talking about, the kind of toughness that a real StarBase needs to have.

Now imagine if they had more than one StarBase in orbit at the major Lagrange points.

Spoiler: Lagrange Points

All providing long range beam weaponry coverage for those in the immediate vicinty of Earth at Earth-Moon Lagrange Points 1-5

5x more StarBases protecting the Larger Star System with each StarBase parked at Sun-Earth Lagrange 1-5

That'd be a minimum of 10x StarBases, add in more Lagrange Points for all major Planetoids, you can have ALOT of StarBases parked nearby wihin the StarSystem to provide security.​

 

[XCV330]

About Laris, it wasn't stated in the Shuttle scene that Picard and Crusher are a couple. People are assuming that, unless I missed an overt line.

Their relationship seemed more friendly coparenting rather than a romantic attachment.

I'm sure a former Romulan intel op would be just all thrilled at Picard hanging out with his ex all the time. Pull that relationship out of the replicator, it's done.

 

[Mr Awe]

Given he had the Borg in his head at that point I am not sure where you are getting the idea that his departure was completely voluntary from.

Meh, it's easy to look at the situation from the outside and offer a clear plan of attack, but in the heat of the moment, with less than complete information, AND with the Borg Queen in your head, it's not always that clear. I'm all for mitigating circumstances.

Overall, I found this episode entertaining. So, I'm not really counting this lack of consequences against it.

However, it is clear that while the Queen was in his head, he still was operating under his own volition. If he did something because he was drunk or high, he'd still be responsible. And the idea that he'd take the Queen out all by himself was ignorant. And he knows the stakes and he know how he fits into the Queen's plans.

I don't know if he's legally guilty--but do any of us really know 25th century Federation law? But he's surely morally culpable. And if JL felt guilty over his forced assimilation, Jack will surely feel guilty about approaching the Queen alone. The Federation might look the other way, but Jack knows.

But it's alright. Not going to get hung up on this.

 

[CrockAlley]

Re: Parents and children

I don't like how Picard only seemed to find meaning or total satisfaction with his life after he found out he had a son. I understand that having a child can be an enriching experience, but they played it off like Picard was a failure if he hadn't reproduced.

Also: It's reasonable that Beverly was sad that Wesley went off on his own personal exploration, but it's a weird thing to list that as a reason why she held tightly to her second son so he wouldn't go away. That seems selfish.

I thought Geordi's relationship with his daughters was great. The dynamic between the three of them was envigorating.

I still think it's unfortunate that Kestra was essentially ignored. One simple mention in dialogue. It's sad that they lost their son, but I wish they would have fit their daughter into their emotional journey.

With so much parent/child focus, it's too bad there wasn't even a mention of Worf being a parent, but what else is new. (A perfect opportunity for Alexander to return, played by yet another actor, haha.) I've always lamented that Beverly and Worf never bonded over being the parents of the group.

 

[Mr Awe]

considering this new version of the federation will have had a sizeable amount of population now suddenly XB's, there will indeed have been people who've walked at least a mile in his shoes, so I doubt anyone would be able to condemn him. It will be hard to have as much ex-borg hatred when there are so many people out there who were infected.

I don't want to belabor this point, but there's a difference between when it's a voluntary action vs. involuntary.

Yeah, Starfleet may give him a pass, but Jack knows.

 

[Mr Awe]

Unfortunately, very common in Trek. So, you can work with it or let it eat away at you.

Clearly not letting it eat away at me. But it's worthy of pondering, at least IMO. I gave the episode an 8, which is good, solid entertainment for me.

 

[GeorgeKirk]

So Jack's job aboard the Enterprise-G is "Special Counselor to the Captain" i.e. Captain's Assistant. Which is basically the fake job they gave little Naomi Wildman so she could feel like she was helping.

 

[XCV330]

I don't want to belabor this point,

oh that train left the station, awhile ago.

but there's a difference between when it's a voluntary action vs. involuntary.

Yeah, Starfleet may give him a pass, but Jack knows.

I'm not a telepath and I'm not the screenwriter. No idea what was in his head.

Though I will say, if you had some scores you wanted to settle that day, maybe frag a lousy officer or two that was a great time to pretend to be a borg. "Oh man. I DID that? Oh my grief. Damn. I don't supposed he filed his personnel reviews either. Oh shucks."

 

[Ovation]

It was entertaining (but I’ve always been easily entertained by Star Trek—I’ve never really stopped watching it from my 6-15 year old point of view). My younger self would have been bothered by some of the inconsistencies but, for quite a while now, and not just for Trek, I’ve moved from plot/story to character/performance as my main focus (helps me enjoy rewatches more readily). Not my favourite of the “NuTrek” (that’s far and away SNW) but mostly fun. I still prefer S1, even if it doesn’t quite stick the landing (it at least tried something new—I always give kudos for that, even if I don’t always like the end result).

In the end, I didn’t need to see TNG 2.0, but I had fun with it. These days, I rarely demand more than that from entertainment.

 

[ToddCam]

I'm sure a former Romulan intel op would be just all thrilled at Picard hanging out with his ex all the time. Pull that relationship out of the replicator, it's done.

I can't see Laris being the jealous type. She seemed to casually ask Picard about Crusher as a former lover.

 

[XCV330]

I can't see Laris being the jealous type. She seemed to casually ask Picard about Crusher as a former lover.

she's from a culture and species whose entire structure is dedicated on secrecy and mistrust, and she was one of the best at it. Good thing Picard uses long passwords.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

I'm sure a former Romulan intel op would be just all thrilled at Picard hanging out with his ex all the time. Pull that relationship out of the replicator, it's done.

Who said they are in a new Relationship?

Given that it's Laris, I'm sure she knows about Picards previous relationship with Beverly.

Picard's newly discovered child might be a thing that surprises Laris, but co-parenting w/o being married together has been a thing for a while.

And it's the 24th century, polygamy should be legally allowed.

Why can't Picard have more than 1x wife?

 

[ReddishAlert]

I can't see Laris being the jealous type. She seemed to casually ask Picard about Crusher as a former lover.

TNG Beverly wouldn’t have stood a chance against her. But older Bev is shooting changelings and manning tactical against the Borg. So Laris should watch herself. Now she’s Bev “the Crusher” Crusher it seems.

 

[XCV330]

Who said they are in a new Relationship?

Given that it's Laris, I'm sure she knows about Picards previous relationship with Beverly.

Picard's newly discovered child might be a thing, but co-parenting w/o being married together has been a thing for a while.

And it's the 24th century, polygamy should be legally allowed.

Why can't Picard have more than 1x wife?

 

[Airmandan]

Whatever happened to Jupiter station? Would Dr. Zimmerman or the EMH doctor have been there? Wouldn’t they have noticed a big ass cube sticking out of the planet?

 

[Caretaker]

When Jack and Jean-Luc were both plugged into the Collective, in that swirling green mass, I couldn't help but think, "Will they use this to identify all the mutants in the Sol system?" It was reminiscent to me of the Cerebro effect from the Fox X-Men films.

 

[CrockAlley]

I'm sure a former Romulan intel op would be just all thrilled at Picard hanging out with his ex all the time. Pull that relationship out of the replicator, it's done.

I like to believe that sometimes people can just be well-adjusted adults instead of melodramatic soap opera characters. I'm sure Laris would be secure enough in herself and her relationship to trust Picard to hang out with an old flame and the mother of his child.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

I lol’d at the Titan’s cook becoming a pilot. I think someone on the writing staff is a Martian Successor Nadesico fan.

I'm more surprised that they still have a cook, given the Replicator Systems around.

TNG Beverly wouldn’t have stood a chance against her. But older Bev is shooting changelings and manning tactical against the Borg. So Laris should watch herself. Now she’s Bev “the Crusher” Crusher it seems.

They are both mature, strong, secure, older women.

Both can easily marry Jean-Luc Picard and still be happy as the wives of JLP.

I like to believe that sometimes people can just be well-adjusted adults instead of melodramatic soap opera characters. I'm sure Laris would be secure enough in herself and her relationship to trust Picard to hang out with an old flame and the mother of his child.

I agree, people can easily love more than one person at the same time.

It's not a new concept.