Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x05 - "Imposters"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by Commander Richard, Mar 15, 2023.

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  1. Yistaan

    Yistaan Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Frontier Day --

    Vadic: Today is the end of the Federation! The end of a regime that acquiesces to disorder! At this very moment in a system far from here, the Federation lies to the galaxy while secretly supporting the treachery of the loathsome Section 31. This fierce machine which you have stolen, upon which we stand, will bring an end to the Council! To their cherished Starfleet! All remaining systems will bow to the Changeling Order, and will remember this as the last day of the Federation!

    :guffaw:
     
  2. mattman8907

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    oh jeez. LOL.

    Anyway we're officially at the Halfway point through the season. I really hope finale is two hours long. either they show 9 and 10 as a two-parter or the finale is a special event.
     
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  3. Yistaan

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    Alexander is dead isn't he? Worf was unusually touchy about what he supposedly sacrificed
     
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    Next week might be the reveal of the Fleet Museum so we could get a look at ships like the Enterprise-A and the NX-01 for the first time in about 18-32 years.
     
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    Ro Laren!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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  7. Roald

    Roald Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    This season is truly on fire..! I have been hoping for a season where you're just so ANGRY that the episode ends, and that you have to wait a whole other week before you can continue..! It's a true testament of how well this season is written..! Utterly engaging, flooded with mystery and great, great character moments..!

    The M'talas Prime scenes did what they had to do, but I am glad we've probably seen the last of that planet now. I'm not much of a fan of these 'crimelord run worlds', and Raffi's humor was a bit off in this. The Titan scenes however were absolutely amazing..! And Ro... That was just perfect...

    Cannot wait for episode 6..!
     
  8. KennyClaus

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    The ACTING by the whole cast is just next level.........blown away. The episode did leak in Brazil early and I had posted a Ro screen cap earlier this week -- but I deleted it because I didn't want to spread it and spoil the amazing surprise.
     
  9. PicardHitbyTesla

    PicardHitbyTesla Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Holt shit star trek is back
     
  10. thribs

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    Changelings being in control of Starfleet explains all the stupidity from the first season. Clearly Admiral Fuckity Fuck was one. :)
     
  11. NCC-73515

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    Ro, Ro, Ro your shuttle
    Gently to the nacelle
    Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily,
    Life is just like hell.

    Let's hope we'll see Picard make her head explode as she utters her last F-bomb :D
     
  12. Pubert

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    Lol. Yeah. Fucking hubris. Lol
    Great seeing Ro. Wish she could have gone on longer.
     
  13. Orac Zen

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    Will really need to watch that again before I can form decent impressions, but for now:

    The good - Ro! I always liked her. I never minded the Enterprise-D crew always getting along but the way Ro stirred everyone up was always enjoyable and "Preemptive Strike" was a major high point of TNG's otherwise all-over-the-place final season. I had no idea she was going to appear and it was just brilliant to see her again. Stewart and Forbes were excellent together, just as they were back in the day. Great to see.

    Liked the Worf / Raffi stuff (the pseudo-Vulcan bits excepted. Best not to get me started on the way Vulcans have been depicted in Trek since TOS - Tuvok usually excepted).

    Really liked coroner Beverly, although it would have been good if the actual ship's doctor (whose name completely eludes me) had had something more to do than just stand there.

    The bad - Ro died. :(

    Shaw really is a complete and utter idiot. I know we're not in the "everyone gets along" era but is it really appropriate for the captain of a starship to actually gloat over the prospect of Picard and Riker - not to mention Seven - being hauled over the coals? He has serious issues - to put it very kindly - and really needs help. As soon as possible.

    Who - or what - the hell is Jack? Does Beverly know who / what he is? How compromised is Starfleet? When did all these changeling takeovers happen? Lots of other questions, which I hope will be answered in a satisfactory way.

    ETA: What about all the Titan crew now on Intrepid? Surely they're not all new-era changelings. What happens to them?
     
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  14. Skyshadow

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    You beat me to it.

    I wonder if this means the previous spoilers were some sort of mistake or if the Beverly we know in the show is an imposter (doesn't really track with her warning everyone to trust no one) and the voice we are hearing means Beverly has some other destiny to become said previous subtitle person.

    The whole hallway and floating debris and colour is very reminiscent of Stranger Things with Will Byers, unsure if this is a misdirect just using the same imagery or has some hidden meaning given all the other easter eggs?
     
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    Well, I see no reason in you. I agree with that person.
     
  16. dinzy

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    This show shits all over Disco and the first 2 seasons of itself. It also shits on the last 2 TNG movies. Please don't have a shitty conclusion. So far it is the perfect serial Trek.

    Ro was completely unexpected and well used. Great closure there. Seeing another actor from 12 monkeys was fun. Gangster Vulcan is a good concept, because why couldn't a child Vulcan end up on the streets due to some terrible events.

    I am concerned that the Moriarty spoilers reveal too much, especially since we are half in and have yet to see him. My guess is that he was the weapon stolen and that would be silly, but maybe they trained the program for the last 30 years to be a weapon. Second guess is that he is the AI guarding the station that has the illogical flaws.

    Not sure what is going on with Jack. For a brief minute or 2 I was expecting to hear Beverly genetically engineered him to have exceptional self-defense skills. I mean if she was so convinced she needed to hide him from Picard, maybe she would do something like that. I was thinking maybe he was linked to a changeling like Vadic's hand. I think her hand is part of another changeling, or a bit of changeling soup ( parts of all of the bad ones) and that enables communication via quantum entanglement. So if Jack has some small bit of changeling in him some how, that makes it so they are almost able to communicate but it doesn't really track. Why would he kill 4 of them and why are they after him? Where is "home?" If he turns out to be a full on changeling and not Picard's actual son I will be livid. They (the writers) couldn't have chosen that path, could they have?
     
  17. Freman

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    Only 4 episodes left and we haven't seen Geordi, Lore or Moriarty yet, and Troi has barely shown up? I'm hoping they don't crap the bed trying to squeeze too much into only 4 more eps.

    And Ro??? Totally took me by surprise, which is hard to do in this day and age. Sadly, as soon as she appeared I said to myself "She's gonna die, because these days they always have to kill off someone".

    Wish I was wrong, but at least they closed her story with dignity.
     
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  18. dinzy

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    Oh I see the Borg speculation. That makes sense. He is also Locutus's kid.
     
  19. Roald

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    There are 5 episodes left, not 4.. ;)
     
  20. Quinton

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    Five more, fwiw.
     
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