Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 2x01 - "The Star Gazer"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by Commander Richard, Mar 2, 2022.

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  1. 10 - Excellent!

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  1. mswood

    mswood Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I really, really, really want SNW to excel. But am still eagerly awaiting real footage before I can even get a real sense of it.
     
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  2. Devon

    Devon Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    It's up!
     
  3. NCC-73515

    NCC-73515 Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Disco is up, Picard not...
     
  4. KennyB

    KennyB I have spoken............ Moderator

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    It's up too---just look under season 2

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  5. mswood

    mswood Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Both are up
     
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  6. NCC-73515

    NCC-73515 Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Love the wormhole turning into an hourglass!
    Picard now wears the SF badge in the intro!
    Beaming grapes right into the buckets XD
    Zhaban has died :(
    Assignments include Sulu, the Grissom, and the Excelsior
    Picard wants to update the Kobayashi Maru
    Raffi is on the Excelsior!
    El-Aurians can choose how quickly they age :D
    Seems his decades with wife and grandkids are completely forgotten...
    "You look absolutely positronic!" XD
    The old 000 Destruct 0 is still in use!
     
  7. mattman8907

    mattman8907 Commodore Commodore

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    the new USS Stargazer was awesome and it's nice to see that they learned from the season 1 finale and used a variety of starfleet ships to form the fleet.
     
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  8. thribs

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    I’m sorry but beaming the grapes off the vine is cheating. That’s no fun at all. :)
     
  9. NCC-73515

    NCC-73515 Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Here we go!

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    New Akira variant? New shuttle! Better look at the Steamrunner and Nova!

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    The good old, not redesigned, original Stargazer...

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    ...and the new one!

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    ...which has a shield bubble again :D
     
  10. Markonian

    Markonian Fleet Admiral Moderator

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    Please tell me, is it a Sovereign class ship?

    And for those that enjoy both STO and PIC, could the new Stargazer be the same as STO’s NCC-2893-A?
     
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  11. mswood

    mswood Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Co star....
    April Grace. Now that's going back a few years.......
    I thank she plays the Admiral, a set up over a transporter operator.
     
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  12. NCC-73515

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    And that gorgeous fleet!

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    I'll try to annotate that... XD
     
  13. mswood

    mswood Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Looks like an Akira Class to me. We have a lot of different ships to look at.
     
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  14. mswood

    mswood Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Some key points, his artificial nature is mentioned. He mentions that its not true that he has always run from love (or words to that effect) which I believe is a specific reference to his life in "Inner Light". Jurati was tried and found innocent due to the mental assault she suffered. So it was actually addressed.

    Q is young.

    Rios holds his cigar, and his lighter, even flicks the lighter on several times, but he never lights the cigar.....

    Those are just tiny little quibbles that have been raised, but the episode sucked.

    I kid it was awesome.....
     
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  15. StewMc

    StewMc Commodore Commodore

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    Is that the Nemesis Sovereign model? It sure looks like it.
     
  16. NCC-73515

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    At least 4 Sovereigns, 2 Akiras, 2 Lunas, and they all look unchanged.

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  17. Lord Exor

    Lord Exor Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    What's with the Borg Queen's battle armor and cloak? That's new.
     
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  18. gweeps

    gweeps Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Love it.
     
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  19. thribs

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    Mentioning that he is the last Picard and then saying the name, Renee Picard is a bit of a troll for us novel fans.
     
  20. Scionz

    Scionz Commander Red Shirt

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    THAT WAS SO GOOD. Holy shit. Now THIS is what Star Trek: Picard should have been.Picard doing things he loves, being a mentor to cadets. A fully functional Starfleet that LOOKS like an evolved version of the Nemesis look. A starfleet filled with ships, new and old, that capitalized on the great bounty of technology brought back by Voyager.

    Finally, an answer to the status of the borg.

    And Q! Oh my. they made him dangerous again. This is Season 1 and 2 Q turned up a notch. I love it. And the surprise of making him younger for a moment... so needed. Good on them.

    Some shows and movies really benefited from the pandemic delays. Discovery did. Spider-Man did. The Marvel shows on Disney+ did. Wheel of Time did. You can add Picard to the list. Compared to Season 1, which was billed as the most expensive Star Trek show ever (to which I say: SPS and Chambon must have made a made a pay day, this season in just one episode makes last season look cheap. Dozens of ships designs, new and old. New shuttles (no recycled disco shuttles). Considerable new late-24th century Star Fleet ship interior sets which probably cost millions of dollars. It simply looks like the show we always hoped Picard would be but fell a little short Season 1.

    I'm really excited. This was the best opening episode to a live action Star Trek season since probably "Night" at the start of Season 5 (when Voyager was the only Star Trek show on the air for the first time). I just hope it can keep up the tempo. I'm excited to see this totalitarian alternate timeline (without the ridiculousness of the Mirror Universe). I just hope when they go back to 2024, the show doesn't become cheap and a Star Trek IV riff.

    But man, Stargazer, Captain Rios, Q, Starfleet Academy Chancellor Picard, the new uniforms, the return of the Borg, the new ships, the story, the acting... there's been some great Star Trek episodes since it came back in 2017 (been a pretty big fan of the last 2 seasons of Discovery), but this is far and away the best one.

    "The trial never ends", after an absence in Picard's life of 31 years, Q returns with that. Terrifying.

    Oh yeah by the way, the year is at least 2401. Welcome to the 25th century folks. It took 35 years but we made it.
     
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