It's not Avenger-class? https://sto.gamepedia.com/Avenger_Battlecruiser
Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 1x10 - "Et in Arcadia Ego, Part 2"
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These are articles created by random people on the internet, not CBS. In this case, articles created by people who didn't understand what was happening at the end of the episode and are being inconsistent with how they treated Miles O'Brien when he was replaced by his future self, or Harry Kim when he was replaced by an alternate copy. In both of those cases, it was literally a new version of the character, while in Picard's case they actually transferred his mind, yet Picard is getting a separate article for his new body?
Data said that before Picard died, they were able to scan, map, and transfer a complete neural image of his brain substrates. So in other words, they copied his mind.
No, he said that before his brain activity ceased completely. The key word here is transfer. They did not make a copy of Picard, they transferred his mind to a new body while his old body died. Mind transference has happened numerous times before In Star Trek and the person wasn't treated as some separate entity.
A transfer took place, but it was of a neural image they made from scans of his mind.
A distinction without a difference.
It's your opinion that there is no difference between a person and a copy?
I’ve enjoyed this season of Picard immensely, which makes the fact that the two-part finale was such a huge disappointment to me an even more bitter pill to swallow. I grew up with TNG in the 80’s and 90’s, and Picard’s always been my favorite Starfleet captain of any of the franchises.
The finale seemed so lazy, so poorly thought out that I just felt empty afterwards. To me it seemed like the emotional investment I’d put into the previous episodes failed to pay off.
Picard being transferred into the golem was telegraphed from kilometers away, and for me that stole any emotional weight away from his death scene.
Jurati will apparently suffer no legal repercussions for her having murdered Bruce Maddox, and all appears forgiven and forgotten. This horrific act that had seemed to rend Jurati to her core now fails to register at all.
Riker showing up in the nick of time with a Starfleet task force was predictable, and the fact that all she ships in that flotilla were the exact same model just smacked of laziness on the part of the VFX staff. And then *poof* Riker and the magical task force were gone again.
I was touched by Picard’s final encounter with Data and Data’s demise. That’s about the only positive takeaway from the finale for me, unfortunately.
I’ve had the same reaction to the finale episodes of the first two seasons of Discovery. Loads of character and plot development that just seems to evaporate in the final hours of the series.
The finale seemed so lazy, so poorly thought out that I just felt empty afterwards. To me it seemed like the emotional investment I’d put into the previous episodes failed to pay off.
Picard being transferred into the golem was telegraphed from kilometers away, and for me that stole any emotional weight away from his death scene.
Jurati will apparently suffer no legal repercussions for her having murdered Bruce Maddox, and all appears forgiven and forgotten. This horrific act that had seemed to rend Jurati to her core now fails to register at all.
Riker showing up in the nick of time with a Starfleet task force was predictable, and the fact that all she ships in that flotilla were the exact same model just smacked of laziness on the part of the VFX staff. And then *poof* Riker and the magical task force were gone again.
I was touched by Picard’s final encounter with Data and Data’s demise. That’s about the only positive takeaway from the finale for me, unfortunately.
I’ve had the same reaction to the finale episodes of the first two seasons of Discovery. Loads of character and plot development that just seems to evaporate in the final hours of the series.
In the make believe world of Trek? Yes.
It's so tedious. And don't forget that ridiculous action scene in the first episode of Discovery's second season with them flying pods through the asteroid field.
Making a compelling, well-filmed space battle is a lost art these days, you hardly ever see a good one. Apart from Rogue One, I can't think of another since DS9.
Yup and I think that was nice about the finale. Data's death in Nemesis was fairly abrupt given the situation. There was never a chance for Picard to properly say goodbye to him and that's what I thought this finale did beautifully.
This is the old argument about the transporter.
Just watched it - For the charactersations and death scene I give it a ten. For the plot and quick resurrection scene I give it 5.75, the UFP citizens can now cheat death and become synthetics... A.I Soong is going to be a zillionaire!
Season 2 Picard - The Wrath of the Maddox clan!
Now going to rewatch the season from the start, what happened to the fifth android?
Season 2 Picard - The Wrath of the Maddox clan!
Now going to rewatch the season from the start, what happened to the fifth android?
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By definition, a copy is not the same thing as the original no matter how precise.
Exactly, yes.
So are you arguing that Harry Kim should be two articles on memory alpha as well?
Even the Turnabout Intruder thing. Clone a body put your mind in it....kill the old one
People keep suggesting that Jurati won’t have to face her murder of Maddox. Do we honestly know that? While she might have been able to earn back the trust of La Sirena’s crew, that doesn’t mean she’s off scot free. It’s frustrating that they’ve left that point unanswered, but she already suggested she’d turn herself in. Nothing really has changed there and we don’t know where La Sirena is heading at the end of the episode.
For a good sci-fi read on the subject, check out Kiln People by David Brin. He even calls the duplicates "golems," IIRC.
