Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 1x04 - "Absolute Candor"

[Nerys Myk]

I've been in Star Trek threads that jumped the track into Star Wars for pages.

 

[Gov Kodos]

I've been in Star Trek threads that jumped the track into Star Wars for pages.

I hope you were on a rooftop in the rain when you posted that.

 

[The Old Mixer]

I got a good laugh out of Raffi's "Man can't even take a guilt trip without using a starship."

 

[Agony_Boothb]

No, not even close. There a dozens of usages. As the author says, "TV Tropes doesn't get to set what the term means; the best we can do is capture the way it is used." There is no consensus on a precise definition and dozens of usages now exist. The article author does not, and does not claim, to able to say they are "not accurate".

There is no such thing, in any human language as "true meaning". All meanings are always the subjective creation of the people who create them. Words mean what we say they mean. New words get invented, older terms take on new meanings. "Rock" in English refers to a form of music, or a stone. IN German, "Rock" means "Skirt".

But if all this is a point blank refusal to accept the reality of changing word usuage, I will be happy to coin a new term. It will mean the same thing however.

I'm not sure what you're smoking but the article literally discusses how people like yourself have diluted Mary Sue so much and made it so completely subjective and denigrated it to a pejorative for every character you don't like, that the term itself is meaningless.

Like what the f is 'moral mary sue" supposed to be anyway?

 

[fireproof78]

I've been in Star Trek threads that jumped the track into Star Wars for pages.

Those are the best pages.

 

[sevenstars]

They should have made it clearer where this Vashti planet is. I assume it’s in neither Federation or Romulan space.

I assume, on the other side of the galaxy from Planet Esther.

 

[Tarek71]

I'm not sure what you're smoking but the article literally discusses how people like yourself have diluted Mary Sue so much and made it so completely subjective and denigrated it to a pejorative for every character you don't like, that the term itself is meaningless.

Like what the f is 'moral mary sue" supposed to be anyway?

I explained exactly what I meant by that. Many times. The article author says specifically that they do not and cannot determine the meaning. Only to record usage, and it has developed dozens of usages. Anyone saying there is just the one, is wrong. Like it or not.

I dont know what else there is to say about this.

 

[fireproof78]

I assume, on the other side of the galaxy from Planet Esther.

One must use a Xerses to get between them.

 

[Gov Kodos]

I'm not sure what you're smoking but the article literally discusses how people like yourself have diluted Mary Sue so much and made it so completely subjective and denigrated it to a pejorative for every character you don't like, that the term itself is meaningless.

Like what the f is 'moral mary sue" supposed to be anyway?

Eh, everyone is wrong except him seems the gist of his argument.

 

[Agony_Boothb]

I dont know what else there is to say about this.

Now you know how the rest of us feel, responding to you.

 

[cooleddie74]

This Moral Mary Sue stuff still going on? Just checking.

 

[Gov Kodos]

This Moral Mary Sue stuff still going on? Just checking.

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[Lord Garth]

I'm so glad I'm not a moderator anymore.

 

[Agony_Boothb]

This Moral Mary Sue stuff still going on? Just checking.

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[Tarek71]

No

Eh, everyone is wrong except him seems the gist of his argument.

Not sure if I understand these continued snipes. If I say anything back, like explain what an amazingly dumb comment this was, I am keeping this alive. I am supposedly going "on and on and ON" .....so just sit down for the dumb snipes and snark, and BS arguments? Asking for a friend.

 

[fireproof78]

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[Alan Roi]

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[Tarek71]

This Moral Mary Sue stuff still going on? Just checking.

Apparently. Agony_Boothb and Gov Kodos are having a problem letting it die.

 

[Sir Stewart Wallace]

Behold, the original moral Mary Sue:

 

[The Old Mixer]

Apparently. Agony_Boothb and Gov Kodos are having a problem letting it die.

You're the one who was told to drop it, and I suggest doing so posthaste, if you don't want a reply ban at the very least.