Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 1x03 - "The End is the Beginning"
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Soji hasn't been pushed to activation yet.
It does feel that way.She's the B4 of the lot.
Yes, after all the 5 minutes of screen time that we knew her
Screen time isn't everything. Emperor Palpatine showed up for literally a minute in ESB and we knew pretty much what we needed to know about him. Vader's character, one of the most iconic in fiction, literally became second fiddle from that moment.Yes, after all the 5 minutes of screen time that we knew her
Tarkin only showed up in one film (before Rogue One) and still overshadowed Imperial officers in films afterwards.
Canon to the left of me
Canon to the right of me
Canon in front of me I see.
Volleyed and returned
Stormed at with posts and quells
Boldly I rode and answered as well,
Into the jaws of of an opus
Written by those who tell.
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I would be happy with the Enterprise E, but if the USS Verity does end up being canon then we could see the Enterprise F, however unlikely that may be.If any capital type Starfleet ship is shown in Picard, it sure as hell won't be "USS Verity"
Picard: Get us out of here!
Rios: Engines are down
Musiker: Another ship is coming in. It's the... Verity
98% of Star Trek fans: Who?
If some/any major Starfleet ship will be coming to Picard's rescue, you bet your ass it's going to be instantly recognizable, and not something read by relatively few people in a comic book and wasn't even canon until the first time it appeared.
I personally dont actually mind if its a noname ship but I cant see the show runners missing the opportunity.
Canon to the left of me
Canon to the right of me
Canon in front of me I see.
Volleyed and returned
Stormed at with posts and quells
Boldly I rode and answered as well,
Into the jaws of of an opus
Written by those who tell.
[QUOTE="DarthPipes”]The problem with the Raffi character, along with the fact that the show’s plot is juggling too much and some of it doesn’t make sense, is indicative of what the true problem with this show is. This show is DESPERATELY trying to be edgy, topical TV. At times it seems like it’s just copying Ron Moore’s playbook for Battlestar Galactica. Starfleet and the Federation have become evil and intolerant, check. A character is a drug addict, check. Another character has PTSD, check. Throw in a mystery box in Dahj (which could be interesting but past history suggests it won’t be) and the show wants to loudly declare that they are “daring” television. Just concentrate on being good television and the rest can fall into place.[/QUOTE]
I think that’s overstating the distance Starfleet has fallen. Aside from the one traitor, none of them seem evil, and only intolerant specifically toward people from nations they have been enemies with for a long time. That’s not the perfect idealist Starfleet of TNG’s era but it’s not evil.
I agree it wasn’t well explained why Rafi was drummed out of Starfleet instead of just getting reassigned.
I think that’s overstating the distance Starfleet has fallen. Aside from the one traitor, none of them seem evil, and only intolerant specifically toward people from nations they have been enemies with for a long time. That’s not the perfect idealist Starfleet of TNG’s era but it’s not evil.
I agree it wasn’t well explained why Rafi was drummed out of Starfleet instead of just getting reassigned.
Wrong. It's called a "dishonorable discharge".
The best way for this to happen is to get "Article 15'd". Then, there is the court-martial option if the soldier wants to challenge the A15, the results of which may end in a DD if the charge is severe and prosecutory evidence is compelling enough.
There used to be the good old Section 8 (made famous by Klinger in M*A*S*H), which is now no longer practiced, for obvious reasons.
Here is a complete list of all discharge types - some of them on dishonorable grounds.
Please do a little basic research before making completely ignorant broad-band claims about things you know not what.
Hologram less dangerous than an android? Depends on if they have mobile emitters.
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Yeah I went looking for it to link it and give the poster kudos but cant find it.
Well they will read this thread at some point and they know who they are.
Good lord can you imagine if they add the MU to the mix here.
EDIT it was @Dukhat in the folowing thread.
https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/oh-oh.302844/page-8#post-13253371
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I don't like the idea of there being anything really 'mystical' in the telepathy and related phenomenon's in religious sense, they merely are natural phenomenons that humans as non-telepathic species might not understand very well. These things are not 'mystical' to Vulcans or Betazoids. Our ability to transmit information via speech might seem 'mystical' to a species without hearing. Same thing.
But regardless, the whole synth-vulcans idea is colossally stupid, and I really, really hope that they're not doing anything of the sort. They're obviously a perfectly normal biological species, that had been examined over several millennia throughout. And if 'synths' are completely indistinguishable from normal biological lifeforms, down to reproducing sexually, then what makes them syths? And of course none of this would really explain the telepathy etc one bit. In both instances we would need to accept that this is something brains arranged in certain ways can do, so such capability may just as well have evolved naturally.
Exactly. My main concern before they made new Trek shows was that the bar had been set high by some amazing shows. We know Trek can be written at that level, because other shows are doing it. But with braingenius Kurtzman at the helm, this will not happen. If there are storytelling opportunities to be missed, you can count on him to miss them. There are glimmers to be sure, but he will make sure our hopes are dashed, if DiscoTrek is anything to go by, and I suspect that it is.
Did that come before Discovery, and was it assumed reading for understanding basic facts about on screen characters?
I think when the EMH activated itself, it was Q in disguise, pushing things in a particular direction...
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