Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 1x03 - "The End is the Beginning"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by Commander Richard, Feb 4, 2020.

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  1. NCC-73515

    NCC-73515 Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Rios probably noticed how he looked at the chair and thought about sitting down there
     
  2. sttngfan1701d

    sttngfan1701d Commodore Commodore

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    The cynic in me just wants to say these writers just don't know Star Trek that well and don't want to bother with the minutiae. The reality is that they probably didn't think it mattered much.
     
  3. NCC-73515

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    the ship was classified, so no class is known to picard
     
  4. Tarek71

    Tarek71 Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    I don't remember if they ever got a message off or not, before the "interplexing beacon" (or whatever they called it) was knocked out.
     
  5. thribs

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    That just makes me think Vengeance. :)
     
  6. NCC-73515

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    Is the name a reference to a real person? Ibn something?
     
  7. sttngfan1701d

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    Yeah it was an Arabic name. I have to watch the scene again with subtitles to know the exact name though.
     
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  9. C.E. Evans

    C.E. Evans Admiral Admiral

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    In the prequel comic, Raffi explained that she calls him "JL" simply to avoid being so formal with him--and also because she knows Picard "likes" it.

    Personally, I didn't think it was always necessary to do that.
     
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  10. Jadeb

    Jadeb Commodore Commodore

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    This was a bit dull-ish. At times it reminded me of Farpoint — time to meet the characters. But I didn’t really warm to The Moody Captain, with the heavy-handed, brain-splattering self-exposition, or to poor, self-pitying Raffi (though I did like her space trailer). Hopefully they will come into their own, but the ending just left me wishing we were traveling with the Romulan housekeepers instead.
     
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  11. The Rock

    The Rock Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    It lowkey bothers me that Starfleet HQ in this show looks completely different from Starfleet HQ as seen in the past shows.

    I felt the same way about Picard's home in France for a time, but then I remembered that the house burnt down in Generations so it makes sense that it looks different since they rebuilt it.
     
  12. Bad Thoughts

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    The writers tried too hard trying to fill in details for Raffi and Rios. Their personal quirks could have been filled in as we go. However, I liked both characters, and their scenes with Picard were generally moving and well acted.

    ... not as much as Picard's Romulan keepers. Picard, Laris and Zhaban could have been the middle-aged Mod Squad.
     
  13. Tosk

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    I guess they decided to redesign it after the Breen attack. :)
     
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  14. The Rock

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    Ooh good point! But didn't they show it after the Breen attack in the VOY episode Pathfinder?
     
  15. Bad Thoughts

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    Hmm.

    In episode 2, the Zhat Vash are described as myth.

    Soji is trying to probe the thoughts of an expert of Romulan mythology.

    ETA: Is someone fighting tge Zhat Vash through the sisters?
     
  16. sttngfan1701d

    sttngfan1701d Commodore Commodore

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    I just remembered that Picard has piloting experience. He made the Enterprise-D do that crazy drift move in an asteroid field to escape that ancient ship graveyard thing. So why do they even need Han Rios?

    Kidding...I know he's 94 and probably didn't learn to fly the new hologram interface. But still.....
     
  17. Tosk

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    No idea...VOY is a weak point in my Trek knowledge. You are probably right. Let's say the repair work turned out to be shoddy and they had to tear it all down and start again a few years later. ;)
     
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  18. Jadeb

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    I’d more invested if Picard were commanding a small Romulan ship stolen and crewed by the housekeepers. That seems like a cooler setup than the ragtag crew trope. Plus, they seem more useful than, say, Raffi.
     
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  19. The Rock

    The Rock Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    I'm now at the part where Picard's Romulan assistants held their own against the Romulan bad guys! Before this episode, I always wondered why Picard didn't have any security of any kind at his home. It never occured to me that his two Romulan assistants WERE two badass fighters! Brilliant.
     
  20. sttngfan1701d

    sttngfan1701d Commodore Commodore

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    He probably still has some security. He mentioned to Dahj that simply tracking his location needs a security clearance. As a high-ranking admiral, he'd probably be entitled to crazy security around his property. But since his housekeepers are ex-Tal Shiar, he probably thought that was enough.
     
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