Spoilers Star Trek: Lower Decks 1x08 - "Veritas"

[Michael]

This one was great! The first one that made me guffaw several times. I thought the whole Danar discussion was golden! I just wonder how many causal fans get some of these references? Is the show as funny to them as to us geeks who have 800+ episodes memorized?

I keep wondering the same. I'm a lifelong fan with a pretty good knowledge of the minutia of Trek and even I don't get all the references all the time without looking some of it up. My wife however, who has watched all the shows with me but is oblivious to many of the references, swears that she's enjoying the show regardless. So besides the nostalgic callbacks there's plenty of other stuff to enjoy, I guess. Like the characters, the situations etc.

 

[fireproof78]

Like the characters, the situations etc.

Enjoying the characters...? What strange new experience is this?

 

[Turtletrekker]

It should be called a discharge. Not a firing

who got discharged? My impression that Fletcher was just reassigned because he screwed up on the assignment he was on. Hence, "fired" from his position. Dr Crusher once referred to being fired in the TNG episode Suspicions.

 

[Shon T'Hara]

Boims is clearly correct about Danar. He and Khan are both supersoldiers, but Danar ran circles around the E-D crew all by himself, while Khan needed a whole cadre of followers to take over the much more primitive original Enterprise and Reliant.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Does bring to mind an interesting question: Khan vs. Danar, who'd win?

My money's on Danar. Hell, he even personally shrugged off a transporter beam! Not even Khan could do that.

 

[fireproof78]

Boims is clearly correct about Danar. He and Khan are both supersoldiers, but Danar ran circles around the E-D crew all by himself, while Khan needed a whole cadre of followers to take over the much more primitive original Enterprise and Reliant.

And was still defeated by Kirk in hand to hand combat...somehow

Does bring to mind an interesting question: Khan vs. Danar, who'd win?

My money's on Danar. Hell, he even personally shrugged off a transporter beam! Not even Khan could do that.

Same here. Danar was an interesting case to be sure and I wouldn't want to bet against him.

 

[BillJ]

I keep wondering the same. I'm a lifelong fan with a pretty good knowledge of the minutia of Trek and even I don't get all the references all the time without looking some of it up.

I flunked out on Roga Danar. Sounded Cardassian to me, so I missed the connection until I looked it up.

 

[Lord Garth]

Just watched the episode. It lived up to what most everyone hyped it up to be. I'll give a recap of what I thought. But bear in mind some of it, a lot of it, most of it is classified.

So my thoughts about the episode started like this: --------------------- ------------------ ------------------------ and then -------------------- -------------------------------------. I also got a huge kick out of ---------------------------. One thing that really stood out was ----------------------------------------------------. But I have to ask: --------------- #$&^ --------- ----------------------?!? Not a huge deal, though, because --------------------------- ------------------------------- ---------------- and I thought Tendi -------------------------- ----------------------------- -----------------------!

Did I also mention ----------------------- --------------------------- ------------------------------ and -----------------------? Best part of the episode. Along with -------------------------------.

So, for all those reasons, I give it a 10.

 

[Lord Garth]

That was absolutely great. I think that was my favourite. Actually, I really loved that. Now, I’m going to go back through the thread and read how it was terrible and breaks Star Trek in half.

"Worse than the third season of TOS, Star Trek V, the first two seasons of TNG, Nemesis, the entire run of Voyager, and everything else that's come out since 2009 combined! Worst Star Trek episode EVAR!!!!1111!!!!" -- The Official Canned Fandom Menace Response

 

[Trekker4747]

Does bring to mind an interesting question: Khan vs. Danar, who'd win?

My money's on Danar. Hell, he even personally shrugged off a transporter beam! Not even Khan could do that.

Khan has magic blood that can reverse death in tribbles AND humans exposed to lethal levels of radiation.

( God, that was a fucking stupid movie.)

 

[fireproof78]

As opposed to transporters restoring advanced aging...

 

[matthunter]

Damn the lack of legal international release! I actually love the TNG ep The Hunted as it shows Picard and the crew at the top of their game but STILL outwitted by Danar (or outfought in Worf's case - shame Data wasn't the one to confront Danar in the cargo bay... but he'd probably have used Data's ethical programming against him or somesuch). And yet not sore losers, they investigate his claims and choose an "out" that stops the Federation having to intervene in support of war crimes and forces President James Martin/Cochrane/That Farmer From Babe to make the "difficult, but just fucking do it rather than being an arse" decisions.

I do wonder what would happen if that culture joined the Federation and fought in the Dominion War. Would there be calls to use that supersoldier tech again? Were the veterans all deprogrammed by that point or could they have decided to fight, knowing it would set their psychological recovery back years?

 

[The Old Mixer]

Eh...Danar was played up as being more uber-competent/resourceful, but he doesn't have that "it" factor that Montalban's Khan had. Danar is white bread by comparison, and I don't mean ethnically. Bland '80s TNG antagonist. I loved the show overall, but a lot of its guest characters just annoyed me.

In the redacted dialogue, I liked how in at least one case, they just continued the same word after the buzz. "Rom--BUZZ--ulan".

 

[Tiberius Jim]

One of the best of the season so far for me. I got an especially good laugh out of the two Romulan guards casually chatting about how much they hate Remans. Loved seeing all the ships in the museum scene and how faithfully they were depicted.

 

[fireproof78]

who got discharged? My impression that Fletcher was just reassigned because he screwed up on the assignment he was on. Hence, "fired" from his position. Dr Crusher once referred to being fired in the TNG episode Suspicions.

Colloquialisms in Star Trek are always confusing. Perhaps it is time for a colorful metaphor.

 

[Lord Garth]

Eh...Danar was played up as being more uber-competent/resourceful, but he doesn't have that "it" factor that Montalban's Khan had. Danar is white bread by comparison, and I don't mean ethnically. Bland '80s TNG antagonist. I loved the show overall, but a lot of its guest characters just annoyed me.

I had to look up Danar. That's how little he stood out to me.

 

[Sisko_is_my_captain]

Fan. Dance. Lmao

 

[Jadeb]

Pretty good. The reveal at the end didn’t work for me, but even that part was amusing. Rutherford’s mission was a highlight, and Dr. T’ana continues to be a favorite.

This is shaping up to be the best Trek debut season since TOS by some margin.

 

[Shon T'Hara]

As opposed to transporters restoring advanced aging...

We don't talk about the second season. Except for Measure of a Man, that one's okay.

 

[Dukhat]

We don't talk about the second season. Except for Measure of a Man, that one's okay.

Of course, because Brian Brophy’s in it.