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Spoilers Star Trek: Lower Decks 1x04 - "Moist Vessel"

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  • 10 - Excellent job as usual, Commander!

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I just brought it up because a friend of mine thought it was ableist.

He said that it's still something many people who get laughed at because of similar problems face, and it’s shitty to turn into a joke.
That's an interesting way to read the scene. It's more like making fun of peoples accents or dialects. It's not a medical condition that's made fun of, it's just someone who learnt to say it differently.
 
Yeah, I never considered anyone's accent to be viewed as a speech impediment.

The only thing that comes close, in my experience, was the propensity for certain upper-class Brit accents to turn R's into W's and sound like Elmer Fudd. Field Marshall Bernard Montgomery had that affectation, which was accurately portrayed in the movie "Patton". I've heard others with that exact type of accent do the same thing.

Reminds me of Gilda Radner's SNL impersonation of "Barbara Wawa". :)
 
I assumed it was a meta joke about how previous actors in the franchise said it. :/

When TOS came out, was there even a standardized pronunciation of the word sensor yet? I'm sure they existed within factories and engineers dealt with them, but they were not everyday parts of people's lives like today.

Also, I wonder if they were instructed to say it that way so the audience didn't think they were saying "censors indicate..."
 
To this day TOS fans make fun of the way Shatner pronounced a word or two...though I'm drawing a blank as to what they were off the top of my head. Anyone? (One of them is right on the tip of my brain.)

ETA: One of them is "sabotage," though I don't hear it myself.
 
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Naaazis ("Patterns of Force"), which is similar to the "sabotaage" thing.

I can't remember if he ever demonstrated that other ubiquitous Canadian mispronunciation, "robutt".
 
Really? Huh... Yeah, I probably wouldn't have batted an eye about it either until last week. After all these decades and just thinking about it now... Who does say "sens-oars" in the real world, anyway? :lol:
 
Anyone else find Mariner’s dig at the admiral’s speech impediment at the end a bit problematic?

A friend of mine is even calling it ableist.


But every episode isn’t out yet, for all you know a later episode will have something you hate more.

We'll cross that bridge when we get there. It's pointless to speculate on what the show WILL be, I'm talking about what the show IS.
 
Wasn't that a fake trick used to fake break out of prison?

Yeah, probably. The producers said amongst themselves that normal vorta don't have that ability, so maybe she was "given it" just for the mission.

Frankly, they were making it up as they went.

Doesn't make much sense for the Dominion to use a Vorta as a spy since the Vorta are the literal face of the Dominion for the entire GQ. It wasn't at all a secret and the Dominion would have no way of knowing how much the UFP had learned of them at that point.
 
And a Trill's inability to use Federation Transporter texchnology as it was supposedly DEADLY for the symbiote - not to mention the overall redo of the Trill species look in general because (and rightfully so); no one wanted to make Terry Farrell look like a lump of clay. ;)

Haha. Forgot about that! Every single "fact" we learned about the Trill in "the host" (beyond just the basic concept) was overridden in DS9.
 
I did. "Where No One..." sold me completely on TNG, even though there would be bumps in the road.
You weren't sold until you saw episodes? I was all-in as soon as I saw a preview ad in a local grocery store. (That's meant in humor, but it's also true. New Trek of any kind was super exciting at that point.)
Who does say "sens-oars" in the real world, anyway? :lol:
This guy. As of right now. :techman:
 
Anyone else find Mariner’s dig at the admiral’s speech impediment at the end a bit problematic?

A friend of mine is even calling it ableist.


But every episode isn’t out yet, for all you know a later episode will have something you hate more.

no. That weird, affected “oars” pronunciation has been a funny verbal tic in Star Trek for decades and this bit lampshades it. Calling this ableist is crying wolf.
 
Huh. I think I pronounce it like 'censors'. When I saw the scene, I thought Mariner was just being a jerk because, well, she's a jerk.
 
I just brought it up because a friend of mine thought it was ableist.

He said that it's still something many people who get laughed at because of similar problems face, and it’s shitty to turn into a joke.

Na he doesn't have a speech impediment he just pronounced a word oddly

A bit like Trump and China
 
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